Fox News, conservative media lied to party faithful

08 Nov 2012 07:57 #1 by Raees
The biggest FAIL in the recent election, to me, was with Fox News and the rest of the Conservative media, including Rush Limbaugh and all the other Right-wing sources you guys use daily, including Rasmussen polls.

They have been telling you not only that Mitt Romney could win, but many within that group were predicting a landslide. The picture they painted was in stark contrast to what the MSM was reporting. But like sheep going off a cliff (sorry Heisenburg), you guys followed them without question, believing their garbage that the MSM polls were weighted to Democrats and therefore were wrong. You went into Tuesday night expecting a party and, in fact, started an early celebration page right here on 285Bound to savor your coming victory.

It was amazing to watch the Right's meltdown by those of us who saw the totality of what was coming, as revealed in MSM polls and discussions that showed Obama with a growing lead. Each time we posted something to that effect, the Righties jumped on it as pure fantasy and pointed to Rasmussen or Fox or other "trusted" Conservative sources.

Nate Silver was one of the frequent targets of you guys. His polls, showing a daily growing chasm between Obama and Romney was pilloried by you.

The Tea Party faithful predicted a continued sweep of the country that started two years ago with the mid-term elections, based on what you believed and what you were being told by your Tea Party sources.

But now, we're post election and you are left to question how your trusted news sources a blogs were so wrong and how they could lie to you for months on end about the chances of Romney winning. And what do hear from you about that? Nothing. It's like it never happened and you weren't lied to.

Based on your right-wing sources, you had predicted everything from disaster to the end of the United States, if Obama were re-elected. Several of you claimed, based on your right-wing sources, the U.S. would not survive if Obama were re-elected. Now that he has been, you pass it all off as nothing really changed and it's back to where we were politically the last four years -- a stalemate.

There was a change with the 2012 election: you learned the United States was not where you thought it was politically, that it's more left than right and that your trusted right-wing sources were feeding you a line of bull that you eagerly lapped up without question. They lied to you on a daily basis and told you what you wanted to hear, even came up with things that distracted you and fed into your biased thinking. And you come up with excuses in your head about why the election shook out the way it did, instead of questioning why you were lied to all these months by Rush, Beck, O'Reilly and Fox News.

It is easy to close oneself off inside a conservative echo chamber. And right-leaning outlets like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh's show are far more intellectually closed than CNN or public radio. If you're a rank-and-file conservative, you're probably ready to acknowledge that ideologically friendly media didn't accurately inform you about Election 2012. Some pundits engaged in wishful thinking; others feigned confidence in hopes that it would be a self-fulfilling prophecy; still others decided it was smart to keep telling right-leaning audiences what they wanted to hear.

But guess what?

You haven't just been misinformed about the horse race. Since the very beginning of the election cycle, conservative media has been failing you. With a few exceptions, they haven't tried to rigorously tell you the truth, or even to bring you intellectually honest opinion. What they've done instead helps to explain why the right failed to triumph in a very winnable election.

Why do you keep putting up with it?


How Conservative Media Lost to the MSM and Failed the Rand-and-File

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... le/264855/

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08 Nov 2012 08:00 #2 by CinnamonGirl
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Yawn

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08 Nov 2012 08:03 #3 by FredHayek
2% difference in the popular vote. Electorally this was a landslide, but so many of the battleground states were within 5% too.

I do think the GOP expected more support for Romney than McCain, instead, it went down significantly. Hard to determine who are likely voters.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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08 Nov 2012 08:09 - 08 Nov 2012 08:14 #4 by Raees
There you go again... with the rationalization.

Add the 2% difference to whatever percentage Mitt got and that's how far wrong you were led to believe, because the election was the opposite of what you were told would happen.

Aren't you the least bit angry you were lied to? Instead, all you can muster is a yawn, as if being lied for months on end is really no big deal to you.

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08 Nov 2012 08:13 #5 by LadyJazzer

Raees wrote: The biggest FAIL in the recent election, to me, was with Fox News and the rest of the Conservative media, including Rush Limbaugh and all the other Right-wing sources you guys use daily, including Rasmussen polls.

But now, we're post election and you are left to question how your trusted news sources a blogs were so wrong and how they could lie to you for months on end about the chances of Romney winning. And what do hear from you about that? Nothing. It's like it never happened and you weren't lied to.

Based on your right-wing sources, you had predicted everything from disaster to the end of the United States, if Obama were re-elected. Several of you claimed, based on your right-wing sources, the U.S. would not survive if Obama were re-elected. Now that he has been, you pass it all off as nothing really changed and it's back to where we were politically the last four years -- a stalemate.


And even now they don't GET IT. They'll still be apologists for FauxNews, Rasmussen, and in two years/four years, they'll be right back at it....

Good... :yeahthat:

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08 Nov 2012 08:14 #6 by FredHayek
Is it lying if the weather guy tells you we are going to have a huge blizzard tomorrow and only get 2"? If you watched Fox, Karl Rove looked like he truly believed Ohio could still go for Mitt. Was he lying?

And you liberals sound so confident now but none of you were willing to sign onto a ban if Romney won. Did you trust your polling?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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08 Nov 2012 08:15 #7 by LadyJazzer

FredHayek wrote: Is it lying if the weather guy tells you we are going to have a huge blizzard tomorrow and only get 2"? If you watched Fox, Karl Rove looked like he truly believed Ohio could still go for Mitt. Was he lying?

And you liberals sound so confident now but none of you were willing to sign onto a ban if Romney won. Did you trust your polling?


Actually, I DID trust my polling.. Nate Silver was 51 for 51... I just have no desire to bet with you clowns. Which means nothing, except I have no desire to bet with you clowns.

I ABSOLUTELY hope that next time around you keep sucking up the FauxNews & Rasmussen Kool-Aid... PLEASE... :thumbsup:

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08 Nov 2012 08:28 - 08 Nov 2012 08:30 #8 by LadyJazzer
The ABSOLUTE BEST LINE OF THE NIGHT:

Meghan Kelly, FauxNews wrote: Karl, is it:

Math You Do As A Republican To Make Yourself Feel Better?


Words which will live in infamy... rofllol :lol:

I happened to be watching FauxNews for a giggle when she dropped that line...And it was worth MUCH MORE than a "giggle"... I watched the rest of the meltdown in absolute hysterics... Even the walkdown to the FauxNews "Decision Desk" to ask the guys if they were 99.999% SURE that Ohio just went for Obama...

And here is John Stewart's take on it... Hysterical:

Jon Stewart Mocks Fox News' Election Night Meltdown: 'There Was An Avalanche On Bullsh*t Mountain' (VIDEO)

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08 Nov 2012 08:30 #9 by Raees
Fred, quit acting like a little kid and stop making excuses for being lied to. It wasn't as if the weather guy tells you we're going to have a huge blizzard and you got 2"... it's as if, day-after-day the weather guy tells you it's going to be sunny and 70 and you end up buried in a blizzard.

Karl Rove did truly believe Ohio would go for Mitt, based on his years of experience and what he was learning on the ground. It's not like he was alone. That's the bull Fox and Rush and everyone else was feeding you.

And do I trust my polling. Well, Fred, since Nate Silver was correct and I bet 307 for a dinner for two, yeah I do trust my polling. And because nobody on either side took a stupid bet about who would win (I bet Obama would win, BTW), you think that should mean something?

It's very clear to me, especially based on yours and CG's response that you aren't willing to discuss this issue or any issue that goes against your biased way of thinking or make an honest appraisal of your trusted sources that were so wrong -- even when confronted with the reality of what happened. This tells me any attempt to discuss this here is worthless and a waste of my valuable time.

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08 Nov 2012 08:34 #10 by FredHayek
More people voted for McCain/Palin four years ago than voted for Obama/Biden this round.

Nate Silver? All of a sudden he is a genius, I had never heard of him before this election.

And the media is in the entertainment business, they want ratings, think MSNBC should have declared Sunday night that you don't need to bother watching this week, this election is in the bag?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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