Fox News, conservative media lied to party faithful

12 Nov 2012 18:51 #51 by LadyJazzer
I'm hoping they see this whole fiasco as a "failure to spin the message well enough." They'll go back to listening to the Rightie echo-chamber inside the bubble, and they'll go right back to thinking they lost because they didn't run someone "conservative enough."

The GOTP is well on it's way to ending up on the dustbin of history... They're already getting less and less relevant...

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12 Nov 2012 20:23 #52 by Raees
I"m hoping they'll get their act together and the two sides will come up with the best ideas for the country and compromise. One side can't do it alone. Rachel Maddow had a great piece on that.

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13 Nov 2012 09:54 #53 by LadyJazzer

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16 Nov 2012 12:56 #54 by Raees
Well, Bill O'Reilly nailed it but I don't think he realizes how close to home he hit.

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16 Nov 2012 13:03 #55 by FredHayek
Maybe it was delusional thiking but seeing an interview with Paul Ryan, they really expected to win.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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18 Nov 2012 21:40 #56 by Raees

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19 Nov 2012 05:26 #57 by FredHayek
America has never been richer? How? Personal wealth is down and government debt is at record levels?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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19 Nov 2012 08:41 - 19 Nov 2012 08:47 #58 by LadyJazzer
How?...Because 93% of the wealth generated in the last 12 years has gone to the top 3%... You gotta hand it to those Bush/Teabaggers....

American Pie: Wealth and Income Inequality in America
Center for Budget and Policy Priorities:


In 2007, the share of after-tax income going to the top 1 percent hit its highest level (17.1 percent) since 1979, while the share going to the middle one-fifth of Americans shrank to its lowest level during this period (14.1 percent).

Between 1979 and 2007, average after-tax incomes for the top 1 percent rose by 281 percent after adjusting for inflation — an increase in income of $973,100 per household — compared to increases of 25 percent ($11,200 per household) for the middle fifth of households and 16 percent ($2,400 per household) for the bottom fifth.

If all groups’ after-tax incomes had grown at the same percentage rate over the 1979-2007 period, middle-income households would have received an additional $13,042 in 2007 and families in the bottom fifth would have received an additional $6,010.

In 2007, the average household in the top 1 percent had an income of $1.3 million, up $88,800 just from the prior year; this $88,800 gain is well above the total 2007 income of the average middle-income household ($55,300).

http://www.cbpp.org/files/6-25-10inc.pdf

Yep... If you're in the right income group, you've done very well....at the expense of everyone else...

.........Oh...You were maybe talking about business instead of personal?

Corporate Profits Just Hit An All-Time High, Wages Just Hit An All-Time Low

In case you need more confirmation that the US economy is out of balance, here are three charts for you.

1) Corporate profit margins just hit an all-time high. Companies are making more per dollar of sales than they ever have before. (And some people are still saying that companies are suffering from "too much regulation" and "too many taxes." Maybe little companies are, but big ones certainly aren't).



2) Fewer Americans are working than at any time in the past three decades. One reason corporations are so profitable is that they don't employ as many Americans as they used to.



3) Wages as a percent of the economy are at an all-time low. This is both cause and effect. One reason companies are so profitable is that they're paying employees less than they ever have as a share of GDP. And that, in turn, is one reason the economy is so weak: Those "wages" are other companies' revenue.

http://www.businessinsider.com/corporat ... low-2012-6

Wow... Looks like business is doing okay....at the expense of the workers....

But, hey, we already fought this issue.... And YOU and the RMoney / "Greed is Good" GOTP baggers...LOST.

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19 Nov 2012 08:43 #59 by FredHayek
So you admit wealth inequality has increased under Obama? He truly is a talker and not a doer.

But with the continued deflation of the dollar, even Americans with money are paying twice the price for gasoline and food.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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19 Nov 2012 08:49 #60 by LadyJazzer
I admit that the Bush tax-cuts, and the stated intransigence of the GOTP/Baggers to stop the president at any cost have wreaked havoc on the American economy and the work force... Wow... Look at the charts...between 2000-2008... Hmmmmmmm. Wow... Look at the increases in the 8 years leading up to 2000.... Hmmmmmmmm.

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