About that mandate...

appleannie wrote: What matters is that, had Romney won by that margin, Republicans would surely have called it a mandate.

Some would have, especially with Obama losing more than 10 million votes from 2008. But it still would have created the same scenario, Republicans and Democrats will still need to compromise to get legislation passed.

appleannie wrote: What matters is that, had Romney won by that margin, Republicans would surely have called it a mandate.

Can you explain how this matters, because it seems that by definition, it is what no longer matters.

I guess it matters if your goal is to keep up partition bickering about non issues on message boards, so I guess I understand why you posted it here or there is a chance we would have real discussions about things that we can change.

on that note wrote:

appleannie wrote: What matters is that, had Romney won by that margin, Republicans would surely have called it a mandate.

Can you explain how this matters, because it seems that by definition, it is what no longer matters.

I guess it matters if your goal is to keep up partition bickering about non issues on message boards, so I guess I understand why you posted it here or there is a chance we would have real discussions about things that we can change.

Sorry, just back from Austin and way busy with the grandkids this weekend (leaving for a soccer game in a few) but I don't consider it a non issue. Conservatives have been trying to delegitimize Obama's presidency since he was first elected in '08 and I'm reacting to 4 years of outrage on the right over anything/everything/nothing, combined with the fact that conservatives did - in both 2000 and 2004 - insist that Bush had a mandate despite the slim majorities. And, frankly, I don't see you attempting a "real discussion about things we can change" so much as tiresomely denying that Obama's win this election cycle means much. A win is, in fact, a mandate of sorts - it's a vote of confidence in the direction Obama has been going (in the case of this election) and a rejection by a majority of voters of the direction that the GOP would apparently like to take us. Overwhelming? No but it doesn't need to be.

Shouldn't Obama give some thought to the loss of popular vote? Fewer people checked the box next to his name than they did in his first election. That's not common, and hasn't happened to an incumbent for a long time.

It would seem that not as many people were buying what he's selling.

Of course they try to de-legitimize his presdidency. You want to take his political capital. The Dems did the same with Bush in 2000. This isn't tidlywinks, trillions of dollars are going to be spent in the next 4 years and the Republicans want a piece of that.

Gee, since the GOTP has lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes, and their total this was less than the last time too, it would appear that another right-wing echo-chamber talking point is as silly as it usually is...

You guys "are running out of angry white guys", and with each passing year that part of the electorate shrinks. The percentage of so-called "evangelicals" drops every year... You guys think by getting a decreasing number of a decreasing demographic you're going to somehow get it back?

The GOTP becomes more extinct with every election because all you have to sell is prejudice and elitist garbage that the majority of America has rejected...

But y'all jus' keep doin' what yer doin', PLEASE... I'll read about the party in the "dustbin of history", kind of like the Whigs....

Actually, I think it's the line for gasoline which is in short-supply because the RETAIL refineries are running short due to their own p*ss-poor planning, and because the CITY OF NEW YORK has decided to keep rationing in-place until after Thanksgiving. Amazing how someone who's supposed to be intelligent keeps trying to hang city & local decisions around the Administration's neck...

But you keep trying... You apparently don't have anything else to do...

Becky wrote: geeeez.....I would hate to wake up each day with your anger and hateful mouth.

It looks like the line of no hope and change to me.

Looks like the line waiting to get gasoline...which the retail oil-companies seem to be unable to provide...

Becky wrote: geeeez.....I would hate to wake up each day with your anger and hateful mouth.

In the meantime, 4,780 US personnel died in Iraq because Bush and Condoleeza Rice LIED.

And I'm STILL waiting for PROOF that the President of the United States "lied"....