Newtown CT Takes Wayne LaPierre's Advice

02 Feb 2013 09:23 - 02 Feb 2013 13:56 #21 by FredHayek
The NFL is a lot different than the NRA. One is a monopoly group of teams. The other was formed to teach Americans how to shoot straight and has evolved from that. Personally as a lifetime member I prefer the organization use my dues to sponsor safe shooting and influence politicians. For example Senator Harry Reid doesn't support the newAWB.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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02 Feb 2013 09:51 #22 by homeagain

FredHayek wrote: The NFL is a lot different than the NRA. One is a monopoly group of teams. The other was formed to teach Americans how to shoot straight and has evolved from that. Personally as a lifetime member I prefer the organization use my dues to sponsor safe shooting and influence politicians. For example Senator Harry Reid doesn't support the bee AWB.


YES, I believe the ORIGINAL intent/purpose of the NRA is a concept that is needed........SAFE utilization of a firearm. The
organization has MORPHED into something much more intricate than that AND much more sinister.....the Denverpost
ran an article about the NRA INFLUENCE in procuring SCOTUS appointees that were pro-gun/pro NRA.....the attempt is
insidious and questionable.......(THIS IS THE TOPIC THAT WAS DELETED FROM PINCAM, in it's entirety.) and was the
final straw for me in participating as a member of PC)....the BOLDED in your statement is scary at best, and sinister would
probably be a MORE appropriate word. JMO

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02 Feb 2013 12:51 #23 by Mtn Gramma
How is the NRA's lobbying politicians "much more sinister" or "insidious and questionable" or "scary at best" than any other corporation trying to influence appointees, policy, or funding?

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02 Feb 2013 13:59 #24 by FredHayek
One of the more interesting uses of your tax dollars are local and state government lobbying for more money. At least the NRA gets their money voluntarily. Your tax dollars are taken with threats of garnishment and jail sentences.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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02 Feb 2013 15:57 #25 by homeagain

Mtn Gramma wrote: How is the NRA's lobbying politicians "much more sinister" or "insidious and questionable" or "scary at best" than any other corporation trying to influence appointees, policy, or funding?


FEAR-mongering= manipulation

MANIPULATION of the masses by holding the 2nd Amend. as hostage......(AGAIN "sheep" mentality,"....JMO)

"WHOEVER CONTROLS THE MEDIA,THE IMAGES, CONTROLS THE CULTURE".....Alan Ginsberg
You might want to think
about that for a little while.......JMO

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02 Feb 2013 22:09 #26 by FredHayek
Fear mongering is everywhere. From dandruff shampoo to Dems saying Republicans will take away Social Security.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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02 Feb 2013 22:38 #27 by Mtn Gramma

homeagain wrote:

Mtn Gramma wrote: How is the NRA's lobbying politicians "much more sinister" or "insidious and questionable" or "scary at best" than any other corporation trying to influence appointees, policy, or funding?


FEAR-mongering= manipulation

MANIPULATION of the masses by holding the 2nd Amend. as hostage......(AGAIN "sheep" mentality,"....JMO)

"WHOEVER CONTROLS THE MEDIA,THE IMAGES, CONTROLS THE CULTURE".....Alan Ginsberg
You might want to think
about that for a little while.......JMO


I thought about it and am wondering what in the heck controlling the media has to do with expecting the NRA to fund background checks.

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03 Feb 2013 10:11 #28 by homeagain

Mtn Gramma wrote:

homeagain wrote:

Mtn Gramma wrote: How is the NRA's lobbying politicians "much more sinister" or "insidious and questionable" or "scary at best" than any other corporation trying to influence appointees, policy, or funding?


FEAR-mongering= manipulation

MANIPULATION of the masses by holding the 2nd Amend. as hostage......(AGAIN "sheep" mentality,"....JMO)

"WHOEVER CONTROLS THE MEDIA,THE IMAGES, CONTROLS THE CULTURE".....Alan Ginsberg
You might want to think
about that for a little while.......JMO


I thought about it and am wondering what in the heck controlling the media has to do with expecting the NRA to fund background checks.

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I believe MONETARY ASSISTANCE (in conjunction with Fed. assistance) is what I was posting......I find it EXTREMELY
interesting that LaPierre has been on camera in May of 1999 bringing forth HIS/NRA'S recommendations of universal background checks and closing loopholes, "Meet the Press' ran the footage today.......WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS PROPOSAL (from the NRA) in today's environment? WHY didn't the NRA get behind this idea in their speech after the
elem. school shooting.....WHY was a "good guy with a gun" the SINGULAR PROPOSAL that the NRA elected to finance?

THINK ABOUT THAT CONCEPT FOR AWHILE???

DISCLAIMER HERE......I am NOT advocating abolish the 2nd amend and I am NOT indicating that gunowership is a bad
thing. I am advocating that the NRA should look "inward" and follow the NFL"S lead in putting some MONEY behind the
effort to provide OTHER SOLUTIONS beside a "good guy with a gun"........AGAIN look at the FINANCIAL associate and
"a good guy with a gun".....WHO benefits financial????

It REALLY is simple and straight forward.......the COMPREHENSIVE approach does NOT benefit the gun mfg./NRA relationship and for the NRA to "finance" another solution would be contradictory to their association with the mfg.JMO

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03 Feb 2013 14:56 #29 by Mtn Gramma
What you were posting is exactly what I quoted because it didn't make sense. You wander all around a topic, throwing in odds and ends that have no connection to the issue, don't answer direct questions, etc. I'm done trying to make sense out of it all.

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