Iraq War:10th Anniversary of the Unnecessary, Unpaid-For War

Opinions are not facts, no matter how many you find that agree with yours.

Rick wrote: Opinions are not facts, no matter how many you find that agree with yours.

Exactly....we have been telling you that for years....nice to see you finally believe it. Now we'll see if some of your buddies here will stop posting opinions as facts. What do ya think? will that happen?

I tend to think a lie is a lie. Yes, there are lesser lies (like a "white lie" where you lie about what you ate or something minor). But if multiple people claim the same thing, and if it's a lie for one, I don't see how the consequences of the "lie" have anything to do with it. If you claim one person lied, you'd be a hypocrite to ignore what others said about the same thing.

Which brings up the WMD claims about Iraq. Both parties made those claims. How can you say only one of them lied while the other didn't?

If it was a lie, Bill Clinton was one of the Dems who did it too. Sure, he didn't send US troops there, but he did bomb them which is an act of war and I'd guess some were killed. But again, does what happens afterwards make the same "lie" a bigger "lie"? Well, even if you think that, then you must think Clinton lied too.

I tend to believe both Bush and Clinton believed about the WMDs. And both emphasized whatever they could find to support it. And I didn't support the Iraq war, not that it matters.

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We can say it because we have irrefutable truth that the lies about the non-existent WMD's were a total fabrication by the Bush administration through cooked-intelligence, and outright lying about the facts... And the fact that they conned some of the Dems to vote for the legislation based on those lies does not constitute the Dems arriving at that determination independent of those lies.

So again, why was it OK for Bill Clinton to say there were WMDs and nuclear weapon research in Iraq? No answer. Just watch the first couple minutes of the video I posted. And I made specific points in my previous post which you ignore.

I'm just looking for a discussion here. Which is funny because I know I won't find it from you as confirmed by your last post. All you do is cut and paste and repeat all over and over again.

And if you claim I'm diverting, you again didn't read my last post.

And I'll post again, if necessary, since you don't seem to understand it. That video was made before the inspectors got in and confirmed that there WAS no nuclear program in 2001/2002... The "yellow-cake" b.s. was a lie; the "aluminum tubes" were a lie; the mobile biological weapons labs were a lie...

Nice video from 1998, though...(Which has nothing to do with what the inspectors found prior to the unnecessary and unpaid-for war that we launched on Iraq later.) But thanks for playing.

If you watched the Bill Clinton video, he talked about the UN inspectors being there for 7 1/2 years just 1 minute into the video.

The main point of the Iraq war was the WMDs (again, not that I supported it). That's the main thing Clinton talked about. So if you think Bush lied, you won't call that a lie too?

Clinton was wrong about Iraq being close to nuclear weapons. So was Bush.

But the main point was the WMDs. Can you even admit Clinton lied too if that is what you say about Bush? Of course not.

Again, I think they both believed what they said and emphasized the evidence that supported it.

Sorry for the 1998 video. But that was when Clinton was in office. Duh. Back then, he said the same stuff Bush did, especially about WMDs and how Saddam used them on his own people. And he bombed them.

Why would I admit something that's irrelevant? What existed in 1998, IN NO WAY IMPLIES that it existed in 2002...And MORE TO THE POINT, we have hours and hours of footage of people who were involved in collecting the intel who say they TOLD THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION THERE WAS NOTHING THERE, and they LIED ABOUT IT ANYWAY.

I don't give a flip what the situation was in 1998... The LIES THAT BUSH TOLD in 2002 were based on what was found in 2002.

But you feel free to continue to try to apologize for Bush's lies and cooked-intelligence...I would expect nothing less.

LadyJazzer wrote:

gmule wrote: I seem to remember that in 2008 one Obama's campaign promises was to end the Iraq war and bring our troops home.
http://usliberals.about.com/od/homeland ... aIrqWr.htm

4 years later.............. one of may empty promises.

Dang... Another campaign promise...KEPT....

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... -year-end/

I remember Bush/Cheney telling us how we would be "Greeted as Liberators", that the war would be "over in months!", that "the Iraqis would pay for the war from their own oil-proceeds"; that the reason that we went INTO THE WAR was because of "Saddam Hussein's WMD's"... And his "link to the 9/11 attacks"....

How'd that work out for ya?

Moving the troops to Kuwait is not ending the war.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/01/a ... e-011412w/

Moving them out of Iraq where they are no longer needed, to another location where they ARE needed is NOT continuing the war in Iraq either....

But thanks...