Bob? The left won't budge on showing a state or federal ID to vote, in fact many insist it's racist and anti-(insert your favorite special interest group name here). How can you expect Chicago style elections to continue if we actually pay close attention to who is entering a polling place and we keep track of how many times they vote? Now you propose that the Gubment actually "invade their privacy" by checking the NCIC (essentially the same thing that happens when you get stopped by the Police, check for warrants and other wants) to run a cursory back ground check? Your idea has less chance of success than that of a fart in a tornado.
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford
Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus
OK....devil in details. Given BG checks are functional at a point of purchase gun store.....I have a cuz in Baton Rouge with a large store and it seems to work. NOW....at a gun show how is the check addressed....technically....will the show facilities ALL have to have the IT to support the check ? IS the (local stuff) CBI capable of addressing say a 100% increase in traffic and what will be the wait period ? No buyer is going to wait artound 1-3 days to make the transaction. Seems the gun show days may well be numbered if so.....I am ignorant here. In a person to person sale (not at a show) how will the seller conduct a background check on the buyer.....where will this be done and physically can the processing facility handle the traffic.
This laW at first blush seems to benefit established stores and may effectively stop many legit sales and/or drive the guns into a black market......happened many times USA.
BTW the Governor spun the data concerning the effectiveness of BG checks.....he lumped arrests with convictions (BOGUS) .....very sleazy. The entire state can be arrested for a 1000 REASONS.....MEANINGLESS UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.....UHHHHHH THAT IS OUR WAY........... AT LEAST TODAY.
IF YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS VOTED FOR THIS WITHOUT FORETHOUGHT.....LETS CAN THEM. Looking for substantial detailed answers.
In some States having a valid CCW means you automatically pass the background check so having a valid driver's. License or state ID you could legally vote. I still need to check if the Colorado gun background check will give you a pass if you have a CCW.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
Gun backgound checks are approved by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation after checking local records and national FBI records. Concealed Carry Permits are approved by the same CBI and your local sheriff.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
When you fail to look all directions at an intersection and have a fender bender with one of your neighbors....
do you go around the neighborhood that night and bump all your other neighbors' cars to make it fair?
No, you regret having the first accident and you try not to have any more, in fact if you can, you reverse time and eliminate the first accident all together.
Your logic is the reason that policies ratchet to absolute imperfection when they only start out slightly imperfect. I hope you are being sarcastic.
Plus keeping you away from a gun has way more of an effect on society than keeping you away from a vote?
Plus it seems that people talk a lot about background checks...but don't seem to talk a lot about the content, who controls the data, what the criteria are. Is this like the no fly list? Random controller deciding who gets to move through and function in society?
How about background checks to buy food or rent/buy a home (oh we are already close on that one). If you want to slow down the losers, take away their food and their guns will be useless.
Background checks associated with financial transactions use servers and data that currently are not coupled to criminal (murder, jaywalking, etc.) "behaviour". The CBI and FBI data address criminal info as far as I know......after 911 who knows. The institution of BG checks for person to person sales will entail IT and bricks investment by the taxpayers.......the IT folks are salivating because the clerks will have to contract to approach this.....On a national scale this is many hundreds of billions $$$$ in business. Oracle will be able to fund their great Americas Cup fleet easily off this effort......the build out will take several years and employ thousands of tech folks. Most of the tech folks will not be Americans but H1B engineers imported because we do not have them.......another discussion.
"Plus it seems that people talk a lot about background checks...but don't seem to talk a lot about the content, who controls the data, what the criteria are. Is this like the no fly list? Random controller deciding who gets to move through and function in society?"
THIS IS THE REAL ISSUE.......SOME CLERK OR GROUP OF CLERKS TYPICALLY RATCHET THE LAW AND INFLICT UNINTENDED RESTRICTION ON INNOCENT CITIZENS. Thus , the Soviet model. But we the people permit this to happen via our elected representatives.........RECALL.....VOTE. RECALL Hitler was elected.......in open, free elections. Then the people gave the National Socialists control in exchange for food and security (seem familiar ??).
Bob? The left won't budge on showing a state or federal ID to vote, in fact many insist it's racist and anti-(insert your favorite special interest group name here). How can you expect Chicago style elections to continue if we actually pay close attention to who is entering a polling place and we keep track of how many times they vote? Now you propose that the Gubment actually "invade their privacy" by checking the NCIC (essentially the same thing that happens when you get stopped by the Police, check for warrants and other wants) to run a cursory back ground check? Your idea has less chance of success than that of a fart in a tornado.
