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SNAIL SEX! Feds Spending $880,000
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27 Mar 2013 21:00 #1
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SNAIL SEX! Feds Spending $880,000 was created by Blazer Bob
:rofllol Bolding mine.
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2013/03/ ... l-sex.html
'According to CNSnews the National Science Foundation awarded the University of Iowa a grant for $876,752 to study whether there is any benefit to sex among New Zealand mud snails and whether that explains why any organism has sex.
Perhaps the study is so costly because they need to first purchase tiny little bottles of beer for the tiny snails."
http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2013/03/ ... l-sex.html
'According to CNSnews the National Science Foundation awarded the University of Iowa a grant for $876,752 to study whether there is any benefit to sex among New Zealand mud snails and whether that explains why any organism has sex.
Perhaps the study is so costly because they need to first purchase tiny little bottles of beer for the tiny snails."
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27 Mar 2013 21:20 #2
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That kind of money might have been better used to provide adequate security for our dead Libyan ambassador.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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That kind of money might have been better used to provide adequate security for our dead Libyan ambassador. Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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28 Mar 2013 18:31 #3
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It is a pretty nasty invasive species. They are really dorking up the Great Lakes. If it could collapse an ecosystem, it could also collapse a local economy or 2.
By studying its sexual habits and practices there is hope that it can be better controlled and perhaps eradicated.
When you know and understand the background, it sounds like it is worth the effort. IMO
YAY SCIENCE! Hooray for Research!!
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The New Zealand mud snail has no natural predators or parasites in the United States, and consequently has become an invasive species. It can reach concentrations above 500,000 per m², endangering the food chain by outcompeting native snails and water insects for food, leading to sharp declines in the native populations. Fish populations then suffer because the native snails and insects are their main food source.
The mud snails are impressively resilient. A snail can live for 24 hours without water. They can however survive for up to 50 days on a damp surface, giving them ample time to be transferred from one body of water to another on fishing gear. The snails may even survive passing through the digestive system of a fish.
Mud snails have now spread from Idaho to most western states of the U.S., including Wyoming, California, Oregon, and Montana. Environmental officials for these states have attempted to slow the spread of the snail by advising the public to keep an eye out for the snails, and bleach or heat any gear which may contain the mud snails. Rivers have also been temporarily closed to fishing to avoid anglers spreading the snails
It is a pretty nasty invasive species. They are really dorking up the Great Lakes. If it could collapse an ecosystem, it could also collapse a local economy or 2.
By studying its sexual habits and practices there is hope that it can be better controlled and perhaps eradicated.
When you know and understand the background, it sounds like it is worth the effort. IMO
YAY SCIENCE! Hooray for Research!!
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03 Apr 2013 21:34 #4
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It will be pretty cool when the research they do makes a difference and stops the species from advancing.
Any significant accounts of us as humans actually making a difference? I guess this is designed to allow you to feel good and it worked. Was it worth it?
My bet is that we will keep shipping goods all around the planet and not do anything to really keep this from happening again. I will even bet that Photo-Fish will order something from some company in the next month and not give any concern to whether that items carrie another invasive species to our land.
It will be pretty cool when the research they do makes a difference and stops the species from advancing.
Any significant accounts of us as humans actually making a difference? I guess this is designed to allow you to feel good and it worked. Was it worth it?
My bet is that we will keep shipping goods all around the planet and not do anything to really keep this from happening again. I will even bet that Photo-Fish will order something from some company in the next month and not give any concern to whether that items carrie another invasive species to our land.
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04 Apr 2013 06:52 #5
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So your solution is what? do nothing? A head in the sand may make you feel good if you are not directly affected by a problem.
Yes there are actual accounts of people using research to make a difference. And yes the end result would make me 'feel' good. But we both know that it will not happen over night or maybe even in our lifetime. It could be a long monumental task and it may never completely irradicate an invasive species, but that is not a reason not to research possible solutions. But you sound like you think they should just give up and roll over. That's a weak attitude. Ever hear the phrase think globally and act locally? Yeah it works. I sanitize my boat and gear everytime I switch waterbodies. I can't control everything that happens in the world (I don't pretend to want to either) and neither can you, but that doesn't mean that we should just give up.
Tell me, are you against research? Why?
Yes there are actual accounts of people using research to make a difference. And yes the end result would make me 'feel' good. But we both know that it will not happen over night or maybe even in our lifetime. It could be a long monumental task and it may never completely irradicate an invasive species, but that is not a reason not to research possible solutions. But you sound like you think they should just give up and roll over. That's a weak attitude. Ever hear the phrase think globally and act locally? Yeah it works. I sanitize my boat and gear everytime I switch waterbodies. I can't control everything that happens in the world (I don't pretend to want to either) and neither can you, but that doesn't mean that we should just give up.
What was designed to allow me to feel good? If the research pans out then yeah it may be worth it but you never know without trying.I guess this is designed to allow you to feel good and it worked. Was it worth it?
Tell me, are you against research? Why?
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05 Apr 2013 08:33 #6
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Look at the $$$ Money and lives spent in G.W. Bush`s War.
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05 Apr 2013 11:09 #7
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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Along the lines of the snail sex outrage, was that over duck genitalia. BTW, this research funding was approved during the Bush administration, not that that matters, as explained below.
Why I Study Duck Genitalia
Fox News and other conservative sites miss the point of basic science.
By Patricia Brennan|Posted Tuesday, April 2, 2013
Why I Study Duck Genitalia
Fox News and other conservative sites miss the point of basic science.
By Patricia Brennan|Posted Tuesday, April 2, 2013
Check out the article for details about the duck genitalia research and what might be learned from it, if you're interested.In the past few days, the Internet has been filled with commentary on whether the National Science Foundation should have paid for my study on duck genitalia, and 88.7 percent of respondents to a Fox news online poll agreed that studying duck genitalia is wasteful government spending. As the lead investigator in this research, I would like to weigh in on the controversy and offer some insights into the process of research funding by the NSF.
Since Sen. William Proxmire's Golden Fleece awards in the 1970s and 1980s, basic science projects are periodically singled out by people with political agendas to highlight how government “wastes” taxpayer money on seemingly foolish research. These arguments misrepresent the distinction between and the roles of basic and applied science. Basic science is not aimed at solving an immediate practical problem. Basic science is an integral part of scientific progress, but individual projects may sound meaningless when taken out of context. Basic science often ends up solving problems anyway, but it is just not designed for this purpose. Applied science builds upon basic science, so they are inextricably linked.
Congress decides the total amount of money that the NSF gets from the budget, but it does not decide which individual projects are funded—and neither does the president or his administration. [emphasis mine] Funding decisions are made by panels of scientists who are experts in the field and based on peer review by outsiders, often the competitors of the scientists who submitted the proposal.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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05 Apr 2013 15:57 #8
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I believe that science is a necessary investment in our future. Funding science should be one of the last things to be cut.
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06 Apr 2013 22:58 #9
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Experience enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again - Jeanne Pincha-Tulley
Comprehensive is Latin for there is lots of bad stuff in it - Trey Gowdy
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I would like to think that ALL federal government expenditures have some valid reasoning, and therefore supporters, behind them. I'm not totally convinced of that, but I would like to think it.
The point, I believe, is that federal government expenditures have to be cut. To determine which expenditures should be reduced or eliminated, each expenditure should be subjected to a cost benefit analysis, which should include whether or not the specific expenditure is justified at all, and if so if it should be in the domain of the federal, state, or local government, or private industry. Also included in the analysis should be whether or not it is already covered somewhere else. I think that reducing duplication of efforts could go a long way toward reducing expenditures, with minimal effect on actual benefit.
The point, I believe, is that federal government expenditures have to be cut. To determine which expenditures should be reduced or eliminated, each expenditure should be subjected to a cost benefit analysis, which should include whether or not the specific expenditure is justified at all, and if so if it should be in the domain of the federal, state, or local government, or private industry. Also included in the analysis should be whether or not it is already covered somewhere else. I think that reducing duplication of efforts could go a long way toward reducing expenditures, with minimal effect on actual benefit.
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07 Apr 2013 05:54 #10
by Sam Park
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GOOD THOUGHT and try to keep politics out of it !!!!
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