Welfare People Getting Cash at ATM's in Strip Clubs Still OK

chickaree wrote: There are a couple of nasty posters here. To be fair, LadyJazzer isn't alone. It would be fair to close the ATMs in strip clubs if it were ascertained that another was available 24/7 within walking distance. Could we all agree on that?

Yes to both.

Rick wrote:

chickaree wrote: There are a couple of nasty posters here. To be fair, LadyJazzer isn't alone. It would be fair to close the ATMs in strip clubs if it were ascertained that another was available 24/7 within walking distance. Could we all agree on that?

Yes to both.

Yes, LJ isn't alone. I would suggest everyone ignore all the nasty posters, then we could have civil debate.

Regarding the original topic...why is there a need to allow "cash out" regardless? In this day and age, cash is not needed anywhere for basic necessities (which is what welfare is intended to provide). Why not keep it on a card?

chickaree wrote: It would be fair to close the ATMs in strip clubs if it were ascertained that another was available 24/7 within walking distance. Could we all agree on that?

No we can't. That is just playing whack a mole. It will give another bureaucrat a job and accomplish nothing.

And, I'm still waiting for that PROOF of how many people are using their "welfare money" in strip clubs? Source please?

[crickets chirping]...except for the usual "LJ-bashing" for daring to point out the unsourced lies and assumptions.

Blazer Bob wrote:

chickaree wrote: It would be fair to close the ATMs in strip clubs if it were ascertained that another was available 24/7 within walking distance. Could we all agree on that?

No we can't. That is just playing whack a mole. It will give another bureaucrat a job and accomplish nothing.

I disagree. In marginal neighborhoods many banks won't place ATMs in insecure environments. For shift workers, finding a machine at 1am can be a challenge. I agree, it would be better if the states made laws that both assured the wise use of TANF funds while assuring the needy of access to the assistance they require. I know it is fashionable among the right to feel contempt for those who require this assistance, but I work with these people on a regular basis and hear first hand of their struggles. We, who are lucky enough to live in affluent, low crime neighborhoods don't understand what a huge difference there is between our lifestyles and those who live on the edge. Those stones are easy to pick up and cast when we don't know the story of the woman huddled before us.

Are strip clubs low crime areas?

i don't hold ANYONE in contempt for needing a leg up.

I have contempt for those who who use that leg up for nefarious reasons.

chickaree wrote: I know it is fashionable among the right to feel contempt for those who require this assistance, .

How do you know that? I not only do not know that, I do not believe that.

I base that on personal acquaintance with lots of amoeba on the right not convetional DNC group think.

frogger wrote: Are strip clubs low crime areas?

i don't hold ANYONE in contempt for needing a leg up.

I have contempt for those who who use that leg up for nefarious reasons.

I've never been in a strip club, so anyone who has can feel free to correct me; my guess is that they are tightly controlled environments. While what is occurring inside is morally wrong, it is not legally wrong.

And, I'm still waiting for that PROOF of how many people are using their "welfare money" in strip clubs? Source please?

and I am still waiting for the problem to be fixed so we can both just sit and wait.