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Science Chic wrote: Can we blame climate change for the tornado that took out Moore, Okla.?
Sometimes natural disasters are just that: natural.
By Susie Cagle
20 May 2013But the science on tornadoes and climate change isn’t clear enough to OMFG about it just yet. As Grist’s John Upton reported recently, the number of twisters has been roller-coastering up and down from year to year. “It certainly feels like one of those boom-bust weather cycles that we expect from climate change. But there doesn’t appear to be any evidence directly linking the recent tornado cycle to global warming.”
“Most climate scientists believe that clearer answers will be forthcoming with better climate modeling tools — and patience,” according to the Huffington Post.
Dr. Marshall Shepherd, the president of the American Meteorological Society and someone who is not shy about taking on climate skeptics, put it this way in a tweet: "Climate change is real issue but can we not dilute the issue with that right now. No links to tornadoes."
http://science.time.com/2013/05/21/tornado/
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Science Chic wrote: Melodramatic much? This isn't about dead children
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Science Chic wrote: I've said it before, I'll say it again, and this is a general comment to everyone, not TLGT specifically: Deal with the subject matter at hand, don't make judgements about the person posting them because very few of us know each other that well, and it's way too easy to take comments out of context when reading them online without body language and tone to help convey true meaning.
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Rick wrote: This thread reminds me of Barney Frank attempting to make political points as the body parts in Boston were still being picked up. IMO, the only focus in the next few days should be on the people who've lost their family members and everything they own. Politics can wait.
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I agree... the fact that anyone woud put politics before the tragedy (as people are stiill buried under rubble) is sick at best. But I guess some people haven't had enough on their side to bitch about lately, so here's a good opportunity to attempt point scoring during the middle of a tragedy. That's sad.The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:
Science Chic wrote: I've said it before, I'll say it again, and this is a general comment to everyone, not TLGT specifically: Deal with the subject matter at hand, don't make judgements about the person posting them because very few of us know each other that well, and it's way too easy to take comments out of context when reading them online without body language and tone to help convey true meaning.
Bullcrap... I can make public judgements all I want. And if a person doesn't want public scrutiny about their character... they won't post. And if they have anything to say about personal attacks... they'll respond. "Can't we all just get along"... hell NO!!!
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Damn right. I will always call her out on this kind of crap... I can't imagine anyone else but her doing this, including you.archer wrote:
Rick wrote: This thread reminds me of Barney Frank attempting to make political points as the body parts in Boston were still being picked up. IMO, the only focus in the next few days should be on the people who've lost their family members and everything they own. Politics can wait.
Yet you chose to post in this thread, and not in the other thread on the tornado that does talk of the tragedy and the victims.
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Perhaps during the next tragedy when LJ decides to score political points, you'll refrain from defending her... but I doubt it.archer wrote: I think I'm done with this topic......perhaps now that everyone is nearly done with the piling on, you will spend a few minutes thinking of the victims and not your own vendettas
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Cool, thanks for that point. I agree somewhat that money needs to be allocated responsibly, but you can't plan for how many disasters/year and how bad they will be - they are an unknown when planning a budget. So while something can be put aside for a rainy day, it may not always cover the cost and we need to take care of those who need help. Yes, that should mean prudent spending cuts and allocations from elsewhere, and saving up during good years to use during extra-bad ones, but we've seen how that will never happen b/c each special interest will cry foul and plead their case of why everyone else should be cut except them and nothing ever changes.FredHayek wrote: But they weren't hypocritical Senators. They just thought any new aid for disaster victims should come out of the current budget. LJ whines about an unpaid war, but just throwing money we don't have at disasters isn't fiscally prudent.
When I have a problem come up at work, my budget doesn't automatically increase, I have to allocate resources from other, less critical areas.
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