Zimmerman - what will happen next?

18 Jul 2013 16:03 #41 by homeagain

Mtn Gramma wrote:

homeagain wrote: HERE'S what I think happened.....music....the UNIVERSAL language..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9TvxSSShBY....here's the video with choreography that is CLASSIC....updated
West Side Story...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsUXAEzaC3Q


Not even close. Apples and oranges.


LET'S dissect this dialogue for a minute.......a black SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD kid (guy) being
followed by an UNknown person in the DARK........how do the lyrics play out with those
factors above........??

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

18 Jul 2013 17:17 #42 by PrintSmith

homeagain wrote: PS....as to "the talk".......I would imagine that YOUR father's conversation with you was FAR
different than a black father's conversation with his son......

TRULY re-read my post about Jena Six.....the stage filled with black/white participants could
NOT communicate their experiences to each other......the white sector was UNable to understand
what the black sector was relating......because the white sector was viewing THRU THEIR OWN
EXPERIENCE, not thru the eye's of a black person.....

And that gets to the heart of the point home. There would be no difference if it wasn't profitable, politically and otherwise, in making sure that any perceived difference is perpetuated instead of abandoned. The black community wants that difference to exist, they need it to exist if they are to keep profiting from the wrong that was done 150+ years ago. They need it to exist if they are to continue to reap the benefits associated with crying "racist" anytime something doesn't go their way.

Zimmerman didn't follow Martin because he was black, he followed him because he matched the description of those responsible for a number of burglaries in that neighborhood. End of story. Unless, that is, you are one of those who profit from keeping racial tensions alive and well in the Union. Then, and only then, does Martin's race become an issue that you can use to gin up the rest of the race baiters and get them out into the streets making mischief which widens the divide further still.

Now, I know no ones wants to explore the character of Martin, but was Zimmerman's suspicion of him really that far off the mark given he was caught with stolen women's jewelry in his backpack at school? Was Zimmerman off the mark thinking he might be on drugs or something when we look at who Martin was and what he did? Does you view of balancing energy have room in it for the possibility that Martin's fate was Martin's energy catching up to him for all the things he had done but had never been caught or punished for doing?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

18 Jul 2013 17:42 #43 by homeagain

PrintSmith wrote:

homeagain wrote: PS....as to "the talk".......I would imagine that YOUR father's conversation with you was FAR
different than a black father's conversation with his son......

TRULY re-read my post about Jena Six.....the stage filled with black/white participants could
NOT communicate their experiences to each other......the white sector was UNable to understand
what the black sector was relating......because the white sector was viewing THRU THEIR OWN
EXPERIENCE, not thru the eye's of a black person.....

And that gets to the heart of the point home. There would be no difference if it wasn't profitable, politically and otherwise, in making sure that any perceived difference is perpetuated instead of abandoned. The black community wants that difference to exist, they need it to exist if they are to keep profiting from the wrong that was done 150+ years ago. They need it to exist if they are to continue to reap the benefits associated with crying "racist" anytime something doesn't go their way.

Zimmerman didn't follow Martin because he was black, he followed him because he matched the description of those responsible for a number of burglaries in that neighborhood. End of story. Unless, that is, you are one of those who profit from keeping racial tensions alive and well in the Union. Then, and only then, does Martin's race become an issue that you can use to gin up the rest of the race baiters and get them out into the streets making mischief which widens the divide further still.

Now, I know no ones wants to explore the character of Martin, but was Zimmerman's suspicion of him really that far off the mark given he was caught with stolen women's jewelry in his backpack at school? Was Zimmerman off the mark thinking he might be on drugs or something when we look at who Martin was and what he did? Does you view of balancing energy have room in it for the possibility that Martin's fate was Martin's energy catching up to him for all the things he had done but had never been caught or punished for doing?

[/b]

The FIRST bolded.....to some degree this statement has truth....MLK brought that thought
forward MANY years ago. In recent history so has Bill Cosby.....so I will agree,in part, to the
statement.

SECOND bolded.......I have posted previously.....I believe that the fated and unfortunate
meeting on that nite had a purpose.....to REVISE the Stand Your Ground Law in Florida.....
and the outspoken juror lamented the restrictive law NEEDED to be reviewed also.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

18 Jul 2013 17:48 #44 by homeagain
PS.....Please address that Z MIGHT have been on drugs also (ADERALL)......and HOW that
RX MIGHT have impacted his actions/decisions......when drugs are introduced into the body,
behavior/demeanor CAN be altered.....IF we are speaking of balance,THEN the above question
ALSO pertains......JMO

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

18 Jul 2013 18:57 #45 by jf1acai
First, the obligatory IMO - no source required.

George Zimmerman has been found not guilty of 2nd degree murder and manslaughter by a duly constituted jury of his peers.

Those who are not satisfied with this now want to charge and try him for some other offense. It appears that what they have currently come up with is along the lines of 'living while white(-Hispanic)'.

I think we can all agree that prosecuting someone for 'driving while black' is wrong. Why then would prosecuting someone for 'living while white(-Hispanic)' be acceptable?

If there is something else besides 'living while white(-Hispanic)' that the complainers are saying that he should be prosecuted for, please explain it to me.

Experience enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again - Jeanne Pincha-Tulley

Comprehensive is Latin for there is lots of bad stuff in it - Trey Gowdy

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

18 Jul 2013 19:01 #46 by FredHayek
What will happen to Zimmerman? He will go broke paying legal bills, first the civil case and then a possible federal case.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

18 Jul 2013 19:39 #47 by archer

FredHayek wrote: What will happen to Zimmerman? He will go broke paying legal bills, first the civil case and then a possible federal case.

Did he not raise enough money online to cover his legal expenses?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

18 Jul 2013 19:55 #48 by Blazer Bob

FredHayek wrote: In Florida black people have actually as a percent of population used Stand Your Ground to protect themselves in court more than whites. Over one million Floridians have concealed carry permits and amazing to see so few instances of abuse.


Came across this.



http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/black ... z2ZS3c2gqb

African Americans benefit from Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” self-defense law at a rate far out of proportion to their presence in the state’s population, despite an assertion by Attorney General Eric Holder that repealing “Stand Your Ground” would help African Americans.

Black Floridians have made about a third of the state’s total “Stand Your Ground” claims in homicide cases, a rate nearly double the black percentage of Florida’s population. The majority of those claims have been successful, a success rate that exceeds that for Florida whites.

Nonetheless, prominent African Americans including Holder and “Ebony and Ivory” singer Stevie Wonder, who has vowed not to perform in the Sunshine State until the law is revoked, have made “Stand Your Ground” a central part of the Trayvon Martin controversy.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/black ... z2ZS6qHgPp "

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

18 Jul 2013 20:19 #49 by FredHayek

archer wrote:

FredHayek wrote: What will happen to Zimmerman? He will go broke paying legal bills, first the civil case and then a possible federal case.

Did he not raise enough money online to cover his legal expenses?


His defense attorney is saying he still needs to be paid. 100K goes fast with lawyers.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

19 Jul 2013 07:42 #50 by The Boss

homeagain wrote:

on that note wrote: The trial is over and most if not all of us were not involved.

So...what is next....the same thing we should have been doing during the whole trial....going on with OUR lives.

This was a media cycle, not something that has anything really to do with anyone that was not in that courtroom or paying for ads on the "news" stations.

I was likely forced down your throat so you would not pay attention to the privacy debate...or rather to end it like it did. So in 20 months or 20 years when you are looking back saying we should have done something...just remember you did...you payed attention to a random court case in Florida.


What you FAIL to take into account is this.....the incident happened WELL before the most
recent privacy debate.....the PRESENT rendered verdict is the culmination of actions that
were put into play a year ago (or so)......the parents were NOT given adequate legal recourse
and THIS finished case has brought, at least, some comfort in knowing it WASN'T swept under
neath the table and forgot. JMO


What you fail to take into account is that I understand that the shooting happened before the most RECENT iteration of the failed privacy debate. The excessive trial coverage came since the privacy debate and mostly displaced it. The privacy debate is already over. How involved did you feel?

What I was referring to was the excessive news coverage and the excessive amount of public watching that came about. I am talking about how a bunch of people that have no real stake in the game spent quite a bit of time paying attention to it, when in fact the results of the trial have little to no effect on their lives...but the stuff they did not pay attention to at the same time, like the privacy debate or their own family, will matter for the rest of their lives.

But, please, keep on talking about this case like it matters to anything really. We already knew the justice system would not answer any real questions except who was or was not going to jail and certainly not if they should or should not go. What you fail to understand is that this case does not matter to most except that CNN figured out how much money they could make by getting the sheep to watch it, even better, they figured out how to get you to think it mattered and make Zimmerman famous. In the end the most important thing is that they know even better the you guys will eat it up, so they are hunting the court records for the next no big deal case to shove down nations throat for profit and in the process assure us that the unfair trail that would have resulted is even less fair because they are now a party to it.

Enjoy.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Time to create page: 0.164 seconds
Powered by Kunena Forum
sponsors
© My Mountain Town (new)
Google+