How Many Will Be Uninsured?

17 Aug 2013 16:20 #21 by LadyJazzer
How many will be uninsured?: MILLIONS FEWER than would be uninsured under the Republican plan...

Oh, wait... The Republicans DON'T HAVE A PLAN....

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17 Aug 2013 16:24 #22 by Rick
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Keep repeating yourself nutjob... Obamacare is the perfect name for a failure and it's only a matter of time till you see the truth.

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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17 Aug 2013 16:54 #23 by archer
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If the Republicans think the ACA is such a horrible plan, why then haven't they crafted am alternative? They might get some traction with repealing it IF they had an alternative plan. But they don't. Bitching and moaning and complaining and whining accomplishes nothing if you have no alternative.

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17 Aug 2013 16:55 #24 by UNDER MODERATION
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pineinthegrass wrote: Rick is correct that Obamacare for a 27 yr old is not free unless that person is near poverty and makes less than 138% of the federal poverty level. In that case the person (or any person under 65) would qualify for Medicaid. Medicaid may or may not be free, depending on the state.

I already gave this link to calculate what subsidies (monthly tax credits) you might get with Obamacare based on your income.

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

According to the calculator, a 27 year old making $34,000 would get no subsidy and must pay the full $3,163 yearly Obamacare premium which comes to a high 9.38% of income.

You can deduct medical expenses (includes health insurance premiums) from your federal taxable income, but only those that exceed 7.5% of income. And as I recall, Obamacare raised that to 10%.



You guys are a sales mans dream...So nieve-



http://www.washingtonpost.com//The-Kais ... Fact-check

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17 Aug 2013 17:06 #25 by UNDER MODERATION
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archer wrote: If the Republicans think the ACA is such a horrible plan, why then haven't they crafted am alternative? They might get some traction with repealing it IF they had an alternative plan. But they don't. Bitching and moaning and complaining and whining accomplishes nothing if you have no alternative.





The GOP position is to repeal Obamacare, which is to say, to repeal all of the law’s consumer protections forever, but now Republicans are hitting Obama for delaying a portion of the consumer protections for a year? lol Republicans simply have no vision for a meaningful role for government to play in fixing the health care system, whether it comes to the consumer protections that are being debated today or anywhere else.


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17 Aug 2013 17:24 #26 by LadyJazzer
Complain, complain, complain... "Repeal and Squeal"...

No alternatives, (other than the free-market which leaves millions uninsured altogether.) But, hey, "let them eat cake..." If they are poor and can't afford it, it's because they're ALL lazy, and they should work harder, right?... The kids who have cancer or heart conditions and have hit their lifetime maximum---"Work harder you little beggars." The people holding down 2-3 minimum-wage jobs because they can't find anything else---It's your own fault for not [pick one: picking the right education; picking the right occupation; picking the right job; picking the right parents...] I'll go with "picking the right parents", Alex... If you're born into the right wealth, then insurance is no problem...

The GOTP HAS NO 'POSITION'... Their position is "We don't care if you suffer, and/or don't have health care...It must be your own fault." Their "position" is complain about ACA, and offer NOTHING in its place.

How many will be uninsured?: MILLIONS FEWER than would be uninsured under the Republican plan...

Oh, wait... The Republicans DON'T HAVE A PLAN....

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17 Aug 2013 19:45 #27 by UNDER MODERATION
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Oh lets be fair now LJ. They do have a plan

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17 Aug 2013 20:14 #28 by LadyJazzer
Yeah, I forgot that one... "Hurry up and die" is a really good plan...If you're a teabagger...

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17 Aug 2013 20:42 #29 by UNDER MODERATION
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LadyJazzer wrote: Yeah, I forgot that one... "Hurry up and die" is a really good plan...If you're a teabagger...


Unfortunatly most of those morons are on government pensions, medicare or social security disability....


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17 Aug 2013 21:24 #30 by pineinthegrass

Vice Lord wrote:

pineinthegrass wrote: Rick is correct that Obamacare for a 27 yr old is not free unless that person is near poverty and makes less than 138% of the federal poverty level. In that case the person (or any person under 65) would qualify for Medicaid. Medicaid may or may not be free, depending on the state.

I already gave this link to calculate what subsidies (monthly tax credits) you might get with Obamacare based on your income.

http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

According to the calculator, a 27 year old making $34,000 would get no subsidy and must pay the full $3,163 yearly Obamacare premium which comes to a high 9.38% of income.

You can deduct medical expenses (includes health insurance premiums) from your federal taxable income, but only those that exceed 7.5% of income. And as I recall, Obamacare raised that to 10%.



You guys are a sales mans dream...So nieve-



http://www.washingtonpost.com//The-Kais ... Fact-check


First of all, your link doesn't work.

And as I pointed out in my first post here, right now these calculators are estimates, usually based on CBO estimates. After all this time, we are still waiting for the actual Obamacare insurance premiums (due Oct 1). But there are still facts as well, and you still haven't provided one source to show 27 year olds would not have to pay for their insurance.

Here is another calculator, try it...

http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/healthpolicy/calculator/

It shows a 27 year old making $34,000 would have to pay $3192 per year after any tax credits (subsidies).

And if you make 400% of the federal poverty level, you get no tax credits. 400% sounds like a lot, but it's not. For 2013 it's a $45,960 annual wage.

http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/13poverty.cfm

Where is your source about 27 year olds paying no Obamacare premiums?

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