The prospect of NSA abuse is now a reality.

Jekyll Island? WHAT activities do you associate with that coastal location?

An INTERESTING read....Fiction author, Brad Thor's latest book "HIDDEN ORDER".....speaks to
your college friend's post.......Brad Thor's books are based in REAL technology/theory and will
scare the shit out of you.....

deltamrey wrote: From a college classmate EAST COAST today- a perspective....personally I vote for ans implement STRONG encryption:


I don't know if there are enough patriotic Congressmen left to mount an impeachment effort. What I fear (and believe likely) is that the surveillance program has already turned up sufficient dirt on most elected officials that they are essentially puppets of the secret state.

You'd have to be ridiculously nieve to think impeachment would change anything

Vice Lord wrote:

deltamrey wrote: From a college classmate EAST COAST today- a perspective....personally I vote for ans implement STRONG encryption:


I don't know if there are enough patriotic Congressmen left to mount an impeachment effort. What I fear (and believe likely) is that the surveillance program has already turned up sufficient dirt on most elected officials that they are essentially puppets of the secret state.

You'd have to be ridiculously nieve to think impeachment would change anything

I agree.

Note that Naive is Native without the T. (in case you were looking for a cool CO bumper sticker, but were not from here)

Per NYTimes......FACE recognition is becoming the "new" go to technology....(you know, ALL those mounted cameras on poles across the city,state,nation).

The technology is NOW main stream and there is NO place to hide in a crowd anymore....YEP,
the movie "Minority Report" is/has come full circle......most of the cutting edge tek stuff is NOW
being used everyday for our "safety".....

Make the call, write the letter....get the mask.

http://www.conservativehq.com/article/1 ... llance-sta


"The author of the original Patriot Act, Representative Jim Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin (ACU lifetime rating 86.59%), took a good bit of heat from limited government constitutional conservatives for the original bill, and for his spirited advocacy of the expansion and extensions of the Patriot Act Congress passed in 2006 and 2011.

However, in the wake of the revelations of the NSA abusing its authority Congressman Sensenbrenner has now come to see things differently.

In a truly powerful interview with NPR’s Audie Cornish, Jim Sensenbrenner made an incisive case that “what the NSA has done is misplace both Congress' trust and the public's trust. And they are an agency out of control.”

Coming from the author of the Patriot Act this is truly a stunning, and welcome, confirmation that the liberty and constitutional conservative movements are gaining ground in this important debate.

Congressman Sensenbrenner was especially tough on the NSA’s interpretation of the word “relevant” in his interview with NPR, particularly in the context of FISA court rulings over the years that have come to consider whole databases (like the data of all Verizon customers) as essentially fair game.

What Jim Sensenbrenner told NPR was, “What Congress intended and what I intended is that the target had to be a foreign national and not a U.S. person. He would be targeted, and then they would find out who that person was calling, both in the United States and elsewhere, rather than grabbing all of the phone information and working backwards to the target. The relevant standard was intended to limit what NSA could do. They [the NSA] took the position that it expanded it. And that tips the commonsense definition of relevance on its head.”...


Transcript: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... sidered%29

Well now.....seems it's NOT only the gov/police entities that have access to this technology.....
per 60 Minutes you can take a picture of ANYONE using your smart phone,access a FREE app
for face recognition and start a search using your smart phone....utilizing facebook, twitter or
any other social media website it will give VAST amounts of data on that person, INCLUDING
in some cases,soc.sec. numbers,and other critical info.....all from a smartphone by a private
citizen.....we are so-o-o- totally screwed.....JMO :faint:

homeagain wrote: Well now.....seems it's NOT only the gov/police entities that have access to this technology.....
per 60 Minutes you can take a picture of ANYONE using your smart phone,access a FREE app
for face recognition and start a search using your smart phone....utilizing facebook, twitter or
any other social media website it will give VAST amounts of data on that person, INCLUDING
in some cases,soc.sec. numbers,and other critical info.....all from a smartphone by a private
citizen.....we are so-o-o- totally screwed.....JMO :faint:

You are just looking at the bad side. Imagine how much easier it will be to catch bad guys and might even deter crime in the long run. :woo hoo:

(The NSA told me to insert this into the thread otherwise they were going to post pictures of the last college party I attended.)

lol FH

So I wonder does it screw up the NSA when we use other people's computers and phones and swap around regularly? How about using burn phones? Maybe match face with whatever technology is being used?