Raising the Debt Ceiling Does Not Increase The Debt

08 Oct 2013 21:35 #1 by otisptoadwater
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Is the average American too stupid to understand that when the Gubment barrows money from other nations that IT DOES INCREASE THE NATIONAL DEBT? They must be to put this moron in office for two terms!

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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08 Oct 2013 21:50 #2 by jf1acai
What do you mean there is no money in my checking account --- I still have checks!






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08 Oct 2013 21:52 #3 by archer

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Is the average American too stupid to understand that when the Gubment barrows money from other nations that IT DOES INCREASE THE NATIONAL DEBT? They must be to put this moron in office for two terms!

He's right you know...right or wrong, the money has aready been spent. We can either pay the bills for what we have already spent, then figure out how to create a better budget where we dont spend more than we bring in, or we can default on the debt we already owe and pay higher interest on everything we borrow in the future making it even harder to create a balanced budget. The GOP may become this country's worst enemy.

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08 Oct 2013 22:02 #4 by otisptoadwater


Stop spending, it's fairly obvious at this point that 17% of the US Gubment shutting down hasn't saved a dime, worse it exposes what a bloated Gubment we have and that it feeds itself off of tax payers income. Barry and Harry want to stay on the same path and keep spending, it's time to call them to account for where the money is going!

In the meanwhile I'd like for you (archer) to tell us what the correct procedure is for Congress to fund the US Gubment; what is an appropriation bill and what has to happen to bring an appropriation bill to a vote?

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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08 Oct 2013 22:39 #5 by archer
Google is your friend Otis....try it.

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08 Oct 2013 23:26 #6 by otisptoadwater

archer wrote: Google is your friend Otis....try it.


So you don't know? It's kind of important if you want to argue about how Congress funds the Gubment. That's ok, it just goes to show that you don't have even a tiny grasp of how the Gubment is supposed to function according to the Constitution (BTW, the Constitution prescribes how Congress is to obey the law as written in the Constitution).

In the meanwhile Barrybots are marching on and doing his bidding. Not much of a surprise. Enjoy the ruin you've voted into power and don't bitch when it starts to hurt your quality of life.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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09 Oct 2013 00:25 #7 by archer

otisptoadwater wrote:

archer wrote: Google is your friend Otis....try it.


So you don't know? It's kind of important if you want to argue about how Congress funds the Gubment. That's ok, it just goes to show that you don't have even a tiny grasp of how the Gubment is supposed to function according to the Constitution (BTW, the Constitution prescribes how Congress is to obey the law as written in the Constitution).

In the meanwhile Barrybots are marching on and doing his bidding. Not much of a surprise. Enjoy the ruin you've voted into power and don't bitch when it starts to hurt your quality of life.


Nice try, the last time I asked fred for an answer I was told by numerous conservatives here that I should go look it up myself.....just returning the favor otis......If you are so well educated on how the government works, why did you have to ask me?

In the meanwhile, the conservatives here have swallowed the red kool-aid that the Republicans are pouring.........the fault lies squarely on the shoulders of the temper tantrum throwing, common sense ignoring, and unconcerned about our nation or it's citizens, right wing extremists. The people WILL see you all for what you are, 2014 may well be the GOP swan song.

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09 Oct 2013 02:08 #8 by Jekyll

archer wrote:

otisptoadwater wrote:

archer wrote: Google is your friend Otis....try it.


So you don't know? It's kind of important if you want to argue about how Congress funds the Gubment. That's ok, it just goes to show that you don't have even a tiny grasp of how the Gubment is supposed to function according to the Constitution (BTW, the Constitution prescribes how Congress is to obey the law as written in the Constitution).

In the meanwhile Barrybots are marching on and doing his bidding. Not much of a surprise. Enjoy the ruin you've voted into power and don't bitch when it starts to hurt your quality of life.


Nice try, the last time I asked fred for an answer I was told by numerous conservatives here that I should go look it up myself.....just returning the favor otis......If you are so well educated on how the government works, why did you have to ask me?

In the meanwhile, the conservatives here have swallowed the red kool-aid that the Republicans are pouring.........the fault lies squarely on the shoulders of the temper tantrum throwing, common sense ignoring, and unconcerned about our nation or it's citizens, right wing extremists. The people WILL see you all for what you are, 2014 may well be the GOP swan song.


NO. The fault lies with BOTH parties girl, not just the GOP. BOTH sides. BOTH sides need ta go, along with everyone associated. Every last incumbent needs ta go, but for starters, Obama, Pelosi and Reid are first. Every last statement that comes out of Obama's mouth is either a flat out lie or a double meaning. There is no compromise from this p.o.s, do you understand that? NONE. Although I dislike the GOP, they have tried to come up with ways to make this shutdown less painful in certain areas of the public sector, and the Democrats have "basically" said: "No, if there's to be a shutdown, then it's the full swing, no exceptions." You know what? F*** whoever believes in that because that statement ITSELF is a lie. Areas of the public sector that are PRIVATELY funded, as in not funded by the government in any way shape or form are being barred from the citizens. People like yourself, and those that are hardcore rightwing are sheep, plain and simple, and yer ready for slaughter. Problem is, I'd say about 98% of the problem is the guy trying to cram socialized healthcare down the throats of all of us, along with all his other wormy legislation that isn't even publicized, let alone talked about.
Now, as far as the OP, increasing the debt limit will ultimately create more debt. A fu**** three year old could figure that out. When it was increased from a simple billion dollars, did it not create a larger deficit? The tree of liberty needs refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants, but people are so flippin' retarded nowadays or are too weak as a mass to rise up and do anything about it that the tree of liberty will be cut and used for firewood. America is falling, and those of us strong enough to do something are outnumbered a hundred fold. I'm sick of it, and I wish nothing but the worst. It's the only way to make people wake up and for natural selection to finally come back with a vengeance.

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09 Oct 2013 02:12 #9 by Jekyll
The one main monolithic catalyst that got this whole ball rolling? The creation of the Central Bank (Federal Reserve). It's a fact, and most people don't even KNOW ABOUT IT. The creation of the I.R.S? HELLO PEOPLE. This hole got started back in 1910 and now there's no stopping it. Let us all live in chains, or at least those that are too dumb or weak to resist it. May the match of revolution be struck soon, I pray to the heavens. So mote it be.

Edit: May something better be created from the ashes I also pray. The time of debate and civility is over. OVER people. Believe it.

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09 Oct 2013 02:28 #10 by Jekyll
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Oh, things can be changed all right. I'm sick ta death of people raising children and preaching to everyone around them that "violence is never the answer." Sure, if you want to eventually live under a dictator.

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