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LOL wrote: I love it when progressives pull out the "single payer card". Simple two words, but not one person has ever defined in detail. Tax rate, formula for determining payments to providers, plus the simple fact the government has no authority to insert itself as a single payer. The private system could and probably would continue for those with $$$. Sounds simple and it is far from it in our country. The problems implementing it and collecting the money are not trivial.

Medicare limps along now because higher payments from insurance are feeding the system and sustaining it, compensating for very low medicare payment rates.

Well I'm far from a progressive and I didn't pull out anything. Single payer is simply a code word for universal health care, managed by the federal government and paid for mainly by taxpayers.

It's the kind of health care that most countries across the globe have and even conservative governments in other countries won't touch it. Conservatives and liberal alike in most countries enjoy their single payer system.

The medical industry and personal are paid by the government for their services. They basically work for the government.

It's not perfect and there are problems just like in any government program but it would be a hell of a lot more fair to the general public then this fustercluck we now have incubating called ACA.

ACA it's going to ruin this country.

Single Payer- You still did not provide any details. US healthcare spending is 18% of GDP $8000 per person, what tax mechanism are you proposing to raise that kind of money? How do you set provider payment rates?
300 million people signing up for their new "Medicare for all card" at one time? All the insurance companies, and other programs like Tricare, medicaid, CHIPS, VA etc, etc. all simply disappear all at once along with all the workers that support those? What is your transition plan? Details please. LOL

Not picking on you Walter, just never see anyone think about the details of SP

LOL wrote: Single Payer- You still did not provide any details. US healthcare spending is 18% of GDP $8000 per person, what tax mechanism are you proposing to raise that kind of money? How do you set provider payment rates?
300 million people signing up for their new "Medicare for all card" at one time? All the insurance companies, and other programs like Tricare, medicaid, CHIPS, VA etc, etc. all simply disappear all at once along with all the workers that support those? What is your transition plan? Details please. LOL

Not picking on you Walter, just never see anyone think about the details of SP

You just did. What part didn't you understand? Taxes are raised until there is enough money to pay for it on an ongoing basis. Simple.

Most transparent administration... yea... right !!! [/b]

Feds ask Blue Cross Blue Shield not to release exchange numbers

FARGO – The Obama administration asked North Dakota’s largest health insurer not to publicize how many people have signed up for health insurance through a new online exchange, a company official says.

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/416090/ (another link donated to Fred)

Would it not have been easier to just let hospitals turn people away who cannot pay just like grocery stores do with that more important resource....food?

If we forced grocers to provide food for everyone regardless of whether they can pay and then pass the cost onto the govt (us) then food would be out of control too.

We can use licensing and required service to ruin every industry. That is the goal right?

Walter L Newton wrote: Most transparent administration... yea... right !!! [/b]

Feds ask Blue Cross Blue Shield not to release exchange numbers

FARGO – The Obama administration asked North Dakota’s largest health insurer not to publicize how many people have signed up for health insurance through a new online exchange, a company official says.

http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/416090/ (another link donated to Fred)

This is nothing new, the Obama people have been quietly putting pressure on Insurance cos, Unions, and Employers to not say bad things or blame the ACA for any problems.

Regarding the numbers, it's what media and managers love to see- but I don't think they are useful at this early point. People are natural procrastinators, even more so when effort and money is required to do something. JMO

They could have just let ObamaCare go public and have a IPO. People would have invested like crazy, esp the democrats that like it and it could have been prefunded.

People put their money in things they believe in and some groups of people really seem to believe in this.

The people that don't can not invest. Since it is going to work so well, the people that believe in it and invested in it can make the money back plus profit on all the money we will save as a society due to the awesomeness of the new laws.

???

So if you support the ACA, would you have been willing to invest in it with more of your money vs. more of other peoples' money (the current system)? I know this is a tough one....it means you have to make decision about your money vs. the easy ones you make about OPM.

Why are there not ACA index funds so people can ride the wave of assured success?

This is both funny and sad...


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