It's never too soon to rewrite history

Reverend Revelant wrote:

not interested wrote: I don't know how much clearer it could be.

About as clear as this...

President Barack Obama rallied his grassroots base in support of a pared-down agenda Tuesday, addressing an “organizing summit” hosted by the issues group founded out of his former presidential campaign.

“You’re doing God’s work,” he told the roughly 300 invited donors, volunteers, and activists at the ornate Washington Mandarin Oriental Hotel for the Organizing for Action event, 13 months after the group was created.

http://swampland.time.com/2014/02/25/ob ... gods-work/

God is working with Organizing for Action. Obama said so. Good to see he's got his hand in both side of the political spectrum.

Obama went to Harvard so he has more credibility when it comes to interpreting "God's work". :LMAO:

not interested wrote: What might be funny, if it wasn't so sad, is your ongoing attempts to convince others that DeLay wasn't trying to say what he actually said. Here's the quote again for you to read.

“I think we got off the track when we allowed our government to become a secular government,” DeLay told host Matthew Hagee, the executive pastor of the Texas Cornerstone Church. “[W]e stopped realizing that God created this nation, that he wrote the Constitution, that it’s based on biblical principles.”

I don't know how much clearer it could be.

Me either, which is why I am going to ask you why you chose to embolden only a portion of the sentence instead of the whole sentence. Might you have chosen to embolden only a portion of it because you are attempting to take part of the sentence out of the context in which it was spoken for the dishonest purpose of attempting to alter the meaning of what DeLay said? Sure looks that way given what you have done, doesn't it.

Do I need to go over basic grammar rules regarding the use of commas with you so that you understand more clearly the deception you are attempting to perpetrate by your actions? I don't know how much clearer your intentions could be illustrated other than in the manner you have chosen, but I do want to thank you for that demonstration.

PrintSmith wrote:

not interested wrote: What might be funny, if it wasn't so sad, is your ongoing attempts to convince others that DeLay wasn't trying to say what he actually said. Here's the quote again for you to read.

“I think we got off the track when we allowed our government to become a secular government,” DeLay told host Matthew Hagee, the executive pastor of the Texas Cornerstone Church. “[W]e stopped realizing that God created this nation, that he wrote the Constitution, that it’s based on biblical principles.”

I don't know how much clearer it could be.

Me either, which is why I am going to ask you why you chose to embolden only a portion of the sentence instead of the whole sentence. Might you have chosen to embolden only a portion of it because you are attempting to take part of the sentence out of the context in which it was spoken for the dishonest purpose of attempting to alter the meaning of what DeLay said? Sure looks that way given what you have done, doesn't it.

Do I need to go over basic grammar rules regarding the use of commas with you so that you understand more clearly the deception you are attempting to perpetrate by your actions? I don't know how much clearer your intentions could be illustrated other than in the manner you have chosen, but I do want to thank you for that demonstration.

You seem like a fairly intelligent person. I can't understand why you would choose to continue down an unwinnable path. It's crystal clear that DeLay said "God created this nation, that he wrote the Constitution." It's not taken out of context, it's a direct quote. Why you are trying to parse this into something it is not, is beyond me. The only reason for your behavior that I can think of is that you are one of those "debaters" that has to win, no matter what. You've taken a position, realize it is wrong and are trying to twist the argument so that it appears to others that you've won. I'm sorry, but if you continue with your erroneous "out of context" tact, this conversation will be over.

not interested wrote: You seem like a fairly intelligent person. I can't understand why you would choose to continue down an unwinnable path. It's crystal clear that DeLay said "God created this nation, that he wrote the Constitution." It's not taken out of context, it's a direct quote. Why you are trying to parse this into something it is not, is beyond me. The only reason for your behavior that I can think of is that you are one of those "debaters" that has to win, no matter what. You've taken a position, realize it is wrong and are trying to twist the argument so that it appears to others that you've won. I'm sorry, but if you continue with your erroneous "out of context" tact, this conversation will be over.

Maybe Printsmith, DeLay and Obama can get together on this since all three of them believe that god has a direct hand in our governmental affairs.

not interested wrote: You seem like a fairly intelligent person. I can't understand why you would choose to continue down an unwinnable path. It's crystal clear that DeLay said "God created this nation, that he wrote the Constitution." It's not taken out of context, it's a direct quote. Why you are trying to parse this into something it is not, is beyond me. The only reason for your behavior that I can think of is that you are one of those "debaters" that has to win, no matter what. You've taken a position, realize it is wrong and are trying to twist the argument so that it appears to others that you've won. I'm sorry, but if you continue with your erroneous "out of context" tact, this conversation will be over.

You have now discovered the PS Revisionist-Reality Technique of Sovereign Citizen logic: "I'm not right, but I'm never wrong"--and FACTS aren't relevant.

LadyJazzer wrote: You have now discovered the PS Revisionist-Reality Technique of Sovereign Citizen logic: "I'm not right, but I'm never wrong"--and FACTS aren't relevant.

Here are the facts. Obama believes as much as DeLay or Printsmith that god is directly involved in American politics. Delay said so, Obama said so.

I would think that you would be grateful that left and right can at least agree on this one point.

not interested wrote: You seem like a fairly intelligent person. I can't understand why you would choose to continue down an unwinnable path. It's crystal clear that DeLay said "God created this nation, that he wrote the Constitution." It's not taken out of context, it's a direct quote. Why you are trying to parse this into something it is not, is beyond me. The only reason for your behavior that I can think of is that you are one of those "debaters" that has to win, no matter what. You've taken a position, realize it is wrong and are trying to twist the argument so that it appears to others that you've won. I'm sorry, but if you continue with your erroneous "out of context" tact, this conversation will be over.

As do you, which makes it all the more curious as to why you chose to act as though the last part of the sentence doesn't exist. Twice now you have done this. Once when you chose not to embolden it and again in the above post where you delete it entirely. What DeLay said didn't end where you are attepting to end the sentence and neither did the meaning of what he said regardless of how you attempt to parse out certain words from the statement in the attempt. What DeLay said is the sum of his words, not a subset of them. And by that measure what you are attempting to establish can't be accomplished. Now certainly the words are there, but not with the meaning that our resident bigot and you are attempting to attach to them. The attempt to portray DeLay as saying that God took pen in hand and wrote the Constitution is laughable on its face and you know it. That is so far removed from any possible accurate interpretation of the statement that anyone attempting it can only be seen as one who knowingly is attempting to deceive.

PrintSmith wrote:

not interested wrote: You seem like a fairly intelligent person. I can't understand why you would choose to continue down an unwinnable path. It's crystal clear that DeLay said "God created this nation, that he wrote the Constitution." It's not taken out of context, it's a direct quote. Why you are trying to parse this into something it is not, is beyond me. The only reason for your behavior that I can think of is that you are one of those "debaters" that has to win, no matter what. You've taken a position, realize it is wrong and are trying to twist the argument so that it appears to others that you've won. I'm sorry, but if you continue with your erroneous "out of context" tact, this conversation will be over.

As do you, which makes it all the more curious as to why you chose to act as though the last part of the sentence doesn't exist. Twice now you have done this. Once when you chose not to embolden it and again in the above post where you delete it entirely. What DeLay said didn't end where you are attepting to end the sentence and neither did the meaning of what he said regardless of how you attempt to parse out certain words from the statement in the attempt. What DeLay said is the sum of his words, not a subset of them. And by that measure what you are attempting to establish can't be accomplished. Now certainly the words are there, but not with the meaning that our resident bigot and you are attempting to attach to them. The attempt to portray DeLay as saying that God took pen in hand and wrote the Constitution is laughable on its face and you know it. That is so far removed from any possible accurate interpretation of the statement that anyone attempting it can only be seen as one who knowingly is attempting to deceive.

So PS, it looks like it's ok now to use Obama's words in any incomplete recitation we choose. I don't wanna hear any more whining if we do.