Amendments 60 & 61?

17 Aug 2010 10:40 #21 by RenegadeCJ
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SS109 wrote: But maybe we do need to tone down the building? If we do have a forecast of 10 years of stagnation, is it really smart to mortgage ourselves for 20 years to buy shiny new highways people won't use?
Compete with other states for jobs? Like California, which has an ever greater debt load/tax rate that is forcing businesses to move east?


Construction is 5-7% of our economy....that is a lot of people out of work.

Population will be growing....unless we drive business out of state. They need homes, schools, libraries, which brings the need for highways, shopping centers, etc.

I guess we shall see...well, I won't, since if this passes I most likely will be moving to wyoming.

My desire is to be more like New Jersey. Cut costs that are on autopilot while making our state extremely desirable for businesses to move here, due to our growth and potential for profits.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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17 Aug 2010 10:49 #22 by RenegadeCJ
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BearMtnHIB wrote: Again - I'll reiterate my point, this will stop no project. Those massive projects that require borrowing more than 10 years out simply need to be approved by the voters.

If the voters do not want them - why is our government building them? We all need to ask ourselves this question.

No project will be stopped by this amendment unless the people do not want it. Projects of that size (in my opinion) should have the approval of those who will be paying for it.

It's really that simple.


If it were really that simple, would business groups across Colorado be spending a lot of money to fight this? Now is not the time to be spending $$ UNLESS it will be very bad for the business climate in Colorado.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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17 Aug 2010 11:03 #23 by BearMtnHIB
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What business groups are against this?

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19 Aug 2010 05:48 #24 by HEARTLESS
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BearMtn, the only business groups that are opposed to any of this are the ones doing business with the government, and don't want the cash cow teat to dry up. If people had bothered to attend the 285 TEA Party meeting last night at Beaver Ranch they would have heard from several knowledgeable and informed candidates and citizens on these issues.

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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19 Aug 2010 09:53 #25 by Bailey Patriots
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This is a speech that was made at the 285 Corridor Tea Party on Aug 18th, it bears repeating!

STAND UP COLORADO!!!!!



Ladies and Gentlemen,
Welcome to our 285 corridor Tea Party…
And Welcome to my nightmare!!!

I HATE this
I hate being here,
I would rather be sitting in my backyard with a beer and listening on the radio to the Rockies attempt to clench a Wild Card spot…

I’m sure that each and every one of you has something that YOU would rather be doing as well--
So I will TRY to make this short--

We have been given a Gift
A gift of Divine Providence by our creator…
The founding fathers believed that they were guided in their legislation by the hand of their creator…
To give us the greatest document ever created……Our Constitution…….

We have been given another Gift……
And I believe our creator inspired this gift as well…

This gift is the gift to restore our Colorado Government!
And put them back in their shackles that we, as a people, placed upon our government in the form of TABOR.
To prohibit them from their financial irresponsibility!!

I’m speaking of Amendments 60, 61,and Proposition 101

We, as a people passed and entered into our State Constitution the “Taxpayer Bill Of Rights” or “TABOR”.
Ever since then, our unscrupulous politicians our “Progressive” Government Unions, our Backstabbing government workers who control spending, have spent every waking hour…, every SLEEPING hour…, plotting and scheming of ways to get AROUND TABOR!


We have been given a GIFT,
The GIFT of RESTORING TABOR!!

Please DON’T WASTE THIS GIFT!!!


When your Creator asks you to stand up---
When your Country is in danger…
When your Liberty is in danger…
When your Representative Government is in danger…
When your Future is in danger…

YOU stand up!!!!

SO---

WELL---


STAND UP!!!

STAND UP for what you believe!!
STAND UP and STAND AGAINST the powerful forces against you!!
STAND UP for the TAXPAYER BILL OF RIGHTS!!
STAND UP to fight the School Board Unions, SEIU, Acorn and all of George Sorros’ money and influence!! The Tides Foundation, the Emerald Cities Foundation!

STAND UP!!

Say NO---- MORE!!

NOT ONE MORE DIME!!!

WE are here to CUT!!!

CUT--- OUT OF CONTROL--- LOCAL SPENDING!!
CUT--- OUT OF CONTROL--- STATE SPENDING!!
CUT--- OUT OF CONTROL--- FEDERAL OBAMA, PELOSI, and YES, even PROGRESSIVE REPUBLICAN SPENDING!!!!!!!!

But…

Beware of the “Washington Monument Gambit”
I’m not sure you know what that is---

I think Mike Rosen coined this term on his talk radio show.
When Hillery and Bill tried to shove their health care bill down our throats the FIRST time, we reacted by electing Republicans to the House of Representatives to a majority for the first time in FORTY YEARS!!!---remember that???
If you are as old as I am you remember that the first budget that the new majority proposed included real CUTS in the Federal Budget…


Did Congress cut “special projects”??,
Did they eliminate worthless Federal Departments??
Did they cut waste and abuse??
Did they cut PORK ??

NO!!!

The Liberal Democrats SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT!!!

They shut down the Museums!!
They shut down the Library of Congress!!
They shut down ALL the tourist destinations in DC!!!
AND YES –they shut down the WASHINGTON MONUMENT!!! Remember that??

Why did they do this???

TO MAKE YOU ANGRY WITH REPUBLICANS!!!

They LIED to you and said that the REPUBLICANS were the ones cutting “VITAL” government services!!


Republicans who were TRYING to give you a SMALLER FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!!!

The Liberal Democrats won……..and the taxpayers…YOU…LOST!!

Newt Gingrich and the newly elected Republicans CAVED…
Under the INTENSE media PRESSURE!!!

I know, as a Conservative, that I, will never forgive him for that…

We call this scheme the “WASHINGTON MONUMENT GAMBIT”


Now you’re probably saying to yourself “what the heck does this have to do with Amendments 60,61 & Proposition 101???

Well, I’ll tell you---






The opponents of these Amendments will shout at you---

THIS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE!!!

THIS WILL DESTROY OUR ECONOMY!!!

THIS WILL DESTROY OUR ROADS!!!

THIS WILL BURN DOWN OUR SCHOOL ROOMS!!!

THIS WILL HURT OUR CHILDREN!!!

SAVE OUR CHILDREN!!!

Save our CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD………SAVE THE CHILDREN!!!!


You know what???

The last vestige of a Scoundrel and a Coward is to HIDE BEHIND CHILDREN!!!!!

WE NEED TO CALL THEM OUT for what they are
COWARDS!!!!!


As citizens and TAXPAYERS,---WE NEED YOU!!!

Don’t WASTE this GIFT!!!

RESTORE the “TAXPAYER BILL OF RIGHTS”!!--- or—

We may NEVER RECOVER from this OUT OF CONTROL GOVERNMENT!!

This may be the LAST CHANCE WE HAVE, before TABOR is made COMPLETELY IRREVELENT!!

You may ask “ but what can I DO??

The answer is PLENTY!!!

Educate yourselves on Amendments 60,61 & Prop 101---


Attend your Local School Board Meetings and ask what they intend to do to DEFEAT 60,61 & 101???

If they are going to allow campaigning on school grounds, at Football Games, at Basketball games, or ANY other function than DEMAND EQUAL TIME!!

DEMAND that we will be allowed to Campaign FOR 60,61 & 101-- or you will SUE!!!


Then, go there, set up tables, Just like THEY WILL!!

If they set up tables at King Soopers or at ANY other Business, Then DEMAND that you too MUST be allowed to set up tables!!! You MUST DEMAND IT!!!

Take copies of these amendments to other groups & Tea Parties!!

Take this speech if you want to, and give it to whomever might be voting---

President Reagan had a plaque, on his desk, that said “There is no limit to what you can accomplish if you don’t care who gets the credit”

Donate time, or money, or BOTH, to groups campaigning FOR these Amendments—

GOOGLE them, they’re not hard to find!

Ask your local political Precinct Representative, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian,…whatever…what are they doing to PROMOTE 60, 61, 101???

Ask your County Commissioners—
Ask your State Representatives—
Ask the Candidates running for November---
SUPPORT the TAXPAYER!!!
NOT
the GOVERNMENT!!!!!
Remember----THEY work for YOU!!!

Tell everyone you talk to—
Shout it from the rooftops if you have to!—

THESE AMENDMENTS MUST PASS!!

Thank you for your time,

And THANK YOU!!

For STANDING UP---

Now “LET,S ROLL”!!!!!

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19 Aug 2010 10:43 #26 by LadyJazzer
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Thanks... You just helped me make up my mind on how to vote...

(Not really...I already knew...But this just reinforced my resolve to do so.)

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19 Aug 2010 10:51 #27 by HEARTLESS
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LJ, changing your view would be like changing Al Gore (the human carbon stain on the skivvies of the world), don't even try.

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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19 Aug 2010 10:57 #28 by LadyJazzer
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As would changing YOUR view...

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19 Aug 2010 11:01 - 19 Aug 2010 11:30 #29 by outdoor338
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LJ, wants higher taxes, this country is going brunkrupt, all the while people like LJ are just adding gas to the fire...not having a clue what they are voting for..just because republicans are looking out everyone in Colorado..liberals will vote against it..

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19 Aug 2010 11:02 #30 by HEARTLESS
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My view is freedom, you think what you want, I'll think what I want, but I won't try to impose my way of life on others as the current administration, and many past administrations is doing.

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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