Supremes Vote 5-4 To Support Public Prayer

06 May 2014 22:39 #11 by archer
Perhaps those who feel the need for a prayer before the meeting should go to another room and not try and impose their beliefs upon others. Is that too much to ask of them. Contrary to some people's belief, this is not a Christian nation. It is a secular nation that allows freedom to practice any religion you wish, but not at the expense of other religions or lack of religion. Freedom..... Look it up.....

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07 May 2014 06:36 #12 by PrintSmith
Oh, but we are a Christian nation archer. 80% of the population identify themselves as being Christian, which makes this a Christian nation regardless of the left's attempt to parse a passage from the Treaty of Tripoli and alter its meaning to suit their ideological ends. That tired and worn out play might work with low information voters, but you aren't going to be finding many of those here in this forum. We're onto it, we know better.

As the justices correctly noted, it is not the government's place to decide where a prayer is said or what its content is. It is not the place of an agent of the government to tell a child that they may not read their Bible at school or to prevent them from saying grace over their food in the cafeteria before eating. The Establishment Clause says that government must be accommodating of religion in the public square, that it may not be hostile to it or seek to drive it out.

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07 May 2014 06:43 #13 by FredHayek
PS,
Would you like the same prayers if you lived in a 51% Islamic nation?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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07 May 2014 06:58 #14 by PrintSmith
Wouldn't bother me a bit Fred. Know why? The Creator has left many paths for us to follow that all lead back to Him. The God of Abraham is the same God as the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. Whether you call Him Jahweh, Allah or Almighty God matters not in the least.

I am no bigot. I can hear the prayer of any man who is virtuous and pious who is a friend to this Union.

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07 May 2014 07:21 #15 by Blazer Bob

FredHayek wrote: PS,
Would you like the same prayers if you lived in a 51% Islamic nation?


I would not care. I support everyone's right to be offended but what difference does it make. This is settled law.

:Whistle

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07 May 2014 07:24 #16 by FredHayek

BlazerBob wrote:

FredHayek wrote: PS,
Would you like the same prayers if you lived in a 51% Islamic nation?


I would not care. I support everyone's right to be offended but what difference does it make. This is settled law.

:Whistle

:clap:

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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07 May 2014 09:57 #17 by LadyJazzer
At least the Supreme Court used as one of its arguments that one could "get up and leave" during the prayer. Since they've given their permission, and apparently Archer's suggestion is too much to hope for, I guess I'll just make it rather obvious at the next meeting I go to that I am "getting up and leaving" for the duration.

Me and my Pet Rock will mutter our incantations out in the hall...

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07 May 2014 10:44 #18 by Blazer Bob

archer wrote: Perhaps those who feel the need for a prayer before the meeting should go to another room and not try and impose their beliefs upon others. Is that too much to ask of them. Contrary to some people's belief, this is not a Christian nation. It is a secular nation that allows freedom to practice any religion you wish, but not at the expense of other religions or lack of religion. Freedom..... Look it up.....


Is this freedom?



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07 May 2014 11:07 #19 by LadyJazzer
If it said "Don't thank Allah" (or Buddha, or Lord Shiva), I doubt that you would have a problem with it...

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07 May 2014 11:11 #20 by Blazer Bob

LadyJazzer wrote: If it said "Don't thank Allah" (or Buddha, or Lord Shiva), I doubt that you would have a problem with it...


Then you would be wrong.

YOu are projecting your bigotry onto me. I do not believe in God by any name. I do believe in free speech.

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