Something the Dog Said wrote: In order for a juvenile immigrant to take advantage of the DACA, the child must have been in the US continuously since 2009 as well as meeting a number of other important requirements. Of course, facts are not necessary for conservative "outrages" as is well evident.
Do you think these children understand these caveats before they leave home? I sort of doubt that many of our fellow citizens even understand that these caveats exist, considering what I've seen when they show people on the street a picture of Joe Biden and ask them who he is.
I have no idea what these children understand, nor do you. I do understand that President Obama has not promised them citizenship or college.
:clap: So you think the children are just wandering north and accidentally cross the border?
Oops, how did that happen. :rofllol
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FredHayek wrote:
I have no idea what these children understand, nor do you. I do understand that President Obama has not promised them citizenship or college.
:clap: So you think the children are just wandering north and accidentally cross the border?
Oops, how did that happen. :rofllol [/quote]Yet another lie by Fred. Where did I make any such statement? Also, still waiting for you to back up or apoligize for your lie about President Obama promising citizenship and college for children arriving here illegally.
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Dog, do people around you say you are gullilble, or easily tricked?
Obama and some Republicans have been talking about the Dream Act and Amnesty since 2008. If you think these promises of permanent citizenship and tuition assistance aren't being heard south of the border, you really are a fool.
I know your man, Obama, claims that his words are not causing this mad rush for the border, but, hate to break it to you, politicians lie.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
C'mon Fred, admit it. You lied. The Dream Act did not provide a pathway to citizenship, nor has it ever been authorized. Where has President Obama promised citizenship and college to children who have entered the country illegally?
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Lied about what? I said talk about the Dream Act and amnesty have been discussed for years and amnesty does offer a legal way for citizenship.
Dog, ever heard that quote from Lincoln? About how you can fool some of the people all of the time? I think that Obama has been able to do that with you.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
FredHayek wrote: Lied about what? I said talk about the Dream Act and amnesty have been discussed for years and amnesty does offer a legal way for citizenship.
Dog, ever heard that quote from Lincoln? About how you can fool some of the people all of the time? I think that Obama has been able to do that with you.
Lied about this:
FredHayek wrote: Talk of amnesty and the Dream Act has inspired children from all over Latin America to risk their lives crossing the border. Officially Team Obama is saying the children are fleeing crime in their countries, but promising them citizenship and college has turned our Border Guard into a daycare center.
Where has President Obama promised "them citizenship and college"? Or do you admit that you lied?
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Another load of malarkey from Dog. One of the ways to become a US citizen through the naturalization process is to be a permanent resident for a period of 5 years. The misnamed DREAM Act of Obama's would have provided for a 6 year conditional permanent resident status with the ability to have the "conditional" dropped after meeting certain criteria such as finishing 2 years of college (which their "conditional" permanent resident status would allow them access to federal guaranteed student loans and work study programs to finance) or serving in the military for a specified period of time and honorably discharged. Thus there was indeed a "pathway to citizenship" included in the legislation which Obama wanted passed despite the lying lips of Dog moving to infer otherwise. Nowhere in the so-called DREAM Act legislation was it stated that a beneficiary of the legislation would never be allowed to apply for US citizenship. As with any piece of legislation crafted by Democrats, that which is not specifically prohibited is allowed regardless of the lies they tell to get the legislation passed.