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Yesterday a friend of my BIL Shared a piece of sh*t lying meme about Obama's speech in Japan to my BIL's Facebook wall. If you haven't seen it, it's from Rednecks Unlimited and it shows a picture of the mushroom cloud after we dropped a nuke on Hiroshima, states (falsely) that Obama apologized for nuking the Japanese during his recent visit, then showed pictures of the destruction at Pearl Harbor, then had a picture of the Pearl Harbor memorial and said " We shouldn't be apologizing for anything. Like if you Agree" - an obvious attempt to gain Facebook activity by encouraging followers to Like and Share (and at last check, it had over 12,000 Shares, despite several comments on that thread pointing out their lying bullsh*t). After pointing out that Obama didn't apologize and admonishing them to fact check before believing bullshit memes, we had a great conversation on how our politicians don't do jack for our veterans and lamenting the lack of good leaders running for President. At one point he made this comment:But of course the entire Trump phenomenon has nothing to do with policy or ideology. It has nothing to do with the Republican Party, either, except in its historic role as incubator of this singular threat to our democracy. Trump has transcended the party that produced him. His growing army of supporters no longer cares about the party. Because it did not immediately and fully embrace Trump, because a dwindling number of its political and intellectual leaders still resist him, the party is regarded with suspicion and even hostility by his followers. Their allegiance is to him and him alone.
Republican politicians marvel at how he has “tapped into” a hitherto unknown swath of the voting public. But what he has tapped into is what the founders most feared when they established the democratic republic: the popular passions unleashed, the “mobocracy.” Conservatives have been warning for decades about government suffocating liberty. But here is the other threat to liberty that Alexis de Tocqueville and the ancient philosophers warned about: that the people in a democracy, excited, angry and unconstrained, might run roughshod over even the institutions created to preserve their freedoms. As Alexander Hamilton watched the French Revolution unfold, he feared in America what he saw play out in France — that the unleashing of popular passions would lead not to greater democracy but to the arrival of a tyrant, riding to power on the shoulders of the people.
This phenomenon has arisen in other democratic and quasi-democratic countries over the past century, and it has generally been called “fascism.” Fascist movements, too, had no coherent ideology, no clear set of prescriptions for what ailed society. “National socialism” was a bundle of contradictions, united chiefly by what, and who, it opposed; fascism in Italy was anti-liberal, anti-democratic, anti-Marxist, anti-capitalist and anti-clerical. Successful fascism was not about policies but about the strongman, the leader (Il Duce, Der Führer), in whom could be entrusted the fate of the nation. Whatever the problem, he could fix it. Whatever the threat, internal or external, he could vanquish it, and it was unnecessary for him to explain how.
To which I replied,The way I believe it is that our president should do what every veteran since I've been alive and then before has to dig deep and take our country back and make us great again it absolutely makes me sick to see what I think it's about to happen we need a strong strong leader no doubt no question
We deserve better than voting for the "lesser of two evils" and it's time we stopped holding our noses and accepting what's being handed to us but rather stand up and vote for what and who we actually want. If Congress has a dismal approval rating, why are they getting re-elected? Vote for someone else! That's how we get change.This country is still great, the issues we face are all within our ability to solve with the ingenuity, technology, courage, and determination that we possess; we simply need the partisan politics to stop and the corruption to be addressed. No one side has all the right answers, our country was founded on many disparate opinions coming together and compromising to find the best solution forward - we HAVE to get back to that. We aren't Republicans or Democrats first, we are Americans, and we need to remember that. And we need our leaders to remember that.
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hillfarmer wrote: There is nothing to celebrate about Trump. He is the ultimate con-man - and cry-baby.
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I don't think comparing a mentally ill madman to crowds of rioters makes much sense. We were told the tea party movement was a bunch of racist haters by the same media who remains mostly silent on these rioting POS "Americans". The Tea Party protestors turned out to be peaceful and even cleaned up after themselves but that's not the narrative spewed by the media who IS NOT outraged over these Trump protests. Out president is of course silent, other than going after Trump as a part of his 8 year endless campaigning. Trump is a loud mouth who can't temper his tone and I personally think he's as phony as they come, but these protestors are responsible for their own actions which are often criminal and at the very least damaging to their cause.hillfarmer wrote: Your comments suggest you are condemning all those not as far right as you are of perpetrating these kinds of attacks. I'm sure you didn't mean to do that. A small percentage of both the right and left condone violence to achieve their goals. Do a bit of research and you will find plenty of examples of far right individuals doing the same (does the name Robert Lewis Dear ring a bell?) It is abhorrent no matter who perpetrates it.
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