American Intelligence and Election Hacking

09 Nov 2018 09:55 #71 by parkcobound
I don't think it makes it OK, just because it has been happening since before there was an internet... and I don't think even you can argue that the internet has certainly made things a lot easier for anyone who wants to steal money, spread chaos, hack elections, or what ever else.... I'm not saying do away with the internet... obviously I find it useful, but I do think we all need to be diligent about protecting ourselves, not only our personal property but our freedoms as well. If you can't believe anything you read on the internet, or your bank account is breached every time you log on, or all of the links you click on download a virus onto your computer, what would be the point in having the internet.

Just because it's been happening doesn't mean I have to be Ok with it, or accept things as they are. Even if many of my views/hopes/dreams/ideals are unattainable does not mean I should stop dreaming and just because the Russians have been meddling in our elections since before the internet does not mean I have to accept that as the way things are. I choose to think we can all be better, that people can be better, that the world can be better. If we don't think we can then we certainly cannot.

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09 Nov 2018 16:45 #72 by Blazer Bob

parkcobound wrote: I don't think it makes it OK, just because it has been happening since before there was an internet... and I don't think even you can argue that the internet has certainly made things a lot easier for anyone who wants to steal money, spread chaos, hack elections, or what ever else.... .


??? I did not say it makes it OK or that the internet has not made it easier.

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12 Nov 2018 10:44 #73 by homeagain
www.marketwatch.com/story/this-18-year-o...its-legal-2018-07-23 The INTEGRITY of any institution.or structure is at HIGH risk and the issue is compounded by the level of apathy within the security system/adm. Wanta be a hacker and help these inept institutions? lucrative and sad.... all at the same time.....

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08 Mar 2020 16:35 #74 by ScienceChic
There's a lot of information here, but it's well worth the time. This isn't a partisan issue, our enemies, including Russia, Iran, and China, are doing their damndest to manipulate and divide us. They play both sides because they care only about sowing discord and making us weaker, and since they can't take us on physically, they continue to do it through cyberwarfare and intellectual property theft.

Report: Russian social accounts sow election discord - again
By AMANDA SEITZ and BARBARA ORTUTAY, AP News | March 5, 2020

Four years after Russia-linked groups stoked divisions in the U.S. presidential election on social media platforms, a new report shows that Moscow’s campaign hasn’t let up and has become harder to detect.

The report from University of Wisconsin-Madison professor Young Mie Kim found that Russia-linked social media accounts are posting about the same divisive issues — race relations, gun laws and immigration — as they did in 2016, when the Kremlin polluted American voters’ feeds with messages about the presidential election. Facebook has since removed the accounts.

Since then, however, the Russians have grown better at imitating U.S. campaigns and political fan pages online, said Kim, who analyzed thousands of posts. She studied more than 5 million Facebook ads during the 2016 election, identifying Russia’s fingerprints on some of the messages through an ad-tracking app. Her review is co-published by the Brennan Center for Justice, a law and policy institute, where she is a scholar.

Another article about the report by Young Mie Kim's group:
Report: Russian Election Trolling Becoming Subtler, Tougher To Detect
Philip Ewing, NPR | March 5, 2020

To that end, influence specialists posed as American grassroots or community activists and targeted populations with the intent to divide them or convince them not to vote, Kim wrote.

"The IRA is well-versed enough in the history and culture of our politics to exploit sharp political divisions already existing in our society," Kim wrote. "American nationalism/patriotism, immigration, gun control and LGBT issues were the top five issues frequently discussed in the IRA's campaigns."

Veterans, working-class whites in rural areas and nonwhites, "especially African Americans," also were especially targeted, according to the report. And: "One notable trend is the increase in the discussion of feminism at both ends of the spectrum."

Kim's findings about the posts' focus on nonwhites tracks with earlier findings of former special counsel Robert Mueller and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, both of which documented clear attempts by Russian influence-mongers specifically to divide blacks or dissuade them from voting.


The report:
New Evidence Shows How Russia’s Election Interference Has Gotten More Brazen
The Kremlin-linked operation behind 2016 election meddling is using similar tactics for 2020, plus some new ones.
By Young Mie Kim, The Brennan Center for Justice | March 5, 2020

In September 2019, just a few months ahead of the Democratic primaries, I noticed some posts on Instagram that appeared to use the strategies and tactics very similar to those of the IRA that I observed in my research on Russian interference in the 2016 elections on social media. A few weeks later, Facebook announced that it had taken down about 75,000 posts across 50 IRA-linked accounts from Facebook (one account) and Instagram (50 accounts).

My team at Project DATA (Digital Ad Tracking & Analysis) happened to capture some of these posts on Instagram before Facebook removed them. We identified 32 accounts that exhibited the attributes of the IRA, and 31 of them were later confirmed to be the IRA-linked accounts by Graphika, a social media analysis firm commissioned by Facebook to examine the accounts.

Some strategies and tactics for election interference were the same as before. Russia’s trolls pretended to be American people, including political groups and candidates. They tried to sow division by targeting both the left and right with posts to foment outrage, fear, and hostility. Much of their activity seemed designed to discourage certain people from voting. And they focused on swing states.


Previous research:
The Stealth Media? Groups and Targets behind Divisive Issue Campaigns on Facebook
Young Mie Kim, Jordan Hsu, David Neiman, Colin Kou, Levi Bankston, Soo Yun Kim, Richard Heinrich, Robyn Baragwanath & Garvesh Raskutti
Journal Political Communication
Volume 35, 2018 - Issue 4, Pages 515-541 | Published online: 12 Jul 2018

Download citation doi.org/10.1080/10584609.2018.1476425

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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08 Mar 2020 18:34 #75 by Blazer Bob
Foreign actors are injecting $ into the US economy pretending to be both right and left wing propagandists.
Sounds like a wash to me. NO, wait. This could be the explanation for the great US economy.
Someone should notify Adam Schiff. Sounds like another good specification for the next impeachment of the President.

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08 Mar 2020 20:19 #76 by FNP
So where is our modern equivalent of Horace Greeley? Where is honesty in journalism today? Why do we believe the B.S. just because it is on the internet or it supports our point of view? www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-horac...ournalist-180974348/

Remember what Abraham Lincoln said ... Never believe everything you read on the internet

FNP

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08 Mar 2020 20:27 #77 by ramage
I thoroughly enjoy the fact that "the great unwashed" can be influenced by postings on social media but not the enlightened of MMT. perhaps someone could enlighten the audience with their first hand view of how the Russians influenced their vote.

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08 Mar 2020 20:40 #78 by Rick

ramage wrote: I thoroughly enjoy the fact that "the great unwashed" can be influenced by postings on social media but not the enlightened of MMT. perhaps someone could enlighten the audience with their first hand view of how the Russians influenced their vote.

This is the point I was going to make as well. How many people were really influenced by Russia... could probably count them on one hand.

Bloomberg spent 600 million trying to influence voters and how did that work out? Some Russians spend 100k.... think about it. Looking for a voter boogie man to make excuses for election outcomes seems pretty lame to me, especially considering what we just witnessed in real time.

Nobody on the left was concerned about Obama trying to influence an election in Israel and he had to have a lot more influence on that election than some some Russian FB ads that very few people saw.

“We can’t afford four more years of this”

Tim Walz

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09 Mar 2020 14:52 #79 by homeagain
Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.
QUOTE ADOLF HITLER......gives U chills,huh?

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09 Mar 2020 18:26 #80 by Rick

homeagain wrote: Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.
QUOTE ADOLF HITLER......gives U chills,huh?

I agree, but you have to look at the degree of influence. I can stand on the corner of a busy street waving a sign and screaming about how bad our governor is and maybe after a couple days I convince 3 people. Meanwhile, some kook like Maddow can influence a whole lot of people with some deranged anti-Trump conspiracy theory and there are no consequences when she is proven wrong. Russia had zero influence on our election if you were able to calculate the number of people reached and then you would have to know if the ads made them change their minds. I think Google has the greatest power to influence people yet nobody seems to care, at least on the left.

“We can’t afford four more years of this”

Tim Walz

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