Tiny Town fined $30,500

20 Aug 2010 18:40 #2 by jf1acai
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This is a difficult situation.

Obviously, there are changes necessary to avoid this happening again.

But, can Tinytown financially handle a $30K fine?

Is the community better served by forcing them to discontinue the train service, or go out of business altogether, via a large ( I suspect to them ) fine, or would it be better to help them find better ways to train (no pun intended) volunteers?

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20 Aug 2010 19:37 #3 by LadyJazzer
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One would hope that they had insurance which will partially, or completely cover the fine.

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20 Aug 2010 20:12 #4 by jf1acai
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Agree, but I would still prefer to work on something that would actually help the community, rather than concentrating on penalizing someone who was trying to do something good.

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21 Aug 2010 10:15 #5 by FredHayek
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Hope the fine doesn't close the place.

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21 Aug 2010 10:33 #6 by V_A
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$30K is steep, but the accident was caused by an untrained employee. They should have a fine and hopefully this is lowered or doesn't drive them out of business.

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22 Aug 2010 12:47 #7 by Local_Historian
Ahhh, assumption he was untrained - could be a case of was trained, poor documentation (actually, lack of documentation) and he just paniced.

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22 Aug 2010 20:22 #8 by V_A
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Local_Historian wrote: Ahhh, assumption he was untrained - could be a case of was trained, poor documentation (actually, lack of documentation) and he just paniced.


"Tiny Town allowed an untrained person to operate the No. 10 steam locomotive on thirty ride cycles," Susan DeMeules, program manager for the Oil and Safety Division, wrote. "OPS is assessing a fine of $30,000 ($1,000 per occasion)."

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_15841452

no assumption on my part, I noted what I read in more than one publication.

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23 Aug 2010 07:18 #9 by FredHayek
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It could still mean the guy was personally trained but it wasn't documented or it wasn't officially approved OSHA/DOT training.

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