Poll: What's a dealbreaker for you to withdraw support of a politician

ramage, I find that interesting that you don't consider oral sex with a woman other than his wife as cheating (not to mention that he was accused of worse by other women). I do consider that adultery.

I do see your point about Melania, but I think the situations are apples to oranges. They both stayed with their husbands, but Hillary had her own power and a career to fight for (not defending what she did attacking the women who accused Bill b/c I think that was horrendous) whereas Melania has none. She is trapped by her pre-nup and caring for a young child. Is she even a citizen of the U.S. or would she be subject to deportation if she divorced Trump? There were rumors not long after Trump won that they had actually signed divorce papers that were going to be made public after the election, assuming per the polls that he was going to lose, but then he won and they squashed that - wouldn't do for an incoming president to be undergoing divorce proceedings. Financial insecurity will make many women stay in abusive relationships, or ones in which their spouses are cheating. And yes, I do believe that he has cheated multiple times, it's his pattern over multiple marriages. I don't think she's spoken out because she stands to lose more than Hillary did when she spoke up.

Regardless of all that, anyone who cheats on their spouse loses my respect. It doesn't matter what the wives say or don't say, the act of adultery is immoral and shows lack of character. Either you support that position or you don't.

Rick, you are missing the details and point of this post. If I wanted to talk about Trump specifically, I would've just put this in the Impeachment thread. I very deliberately titled it POLITICIANS, not PRESIDENT, and yes they are very generic terms for options but if I go into specifics, then we go down rabbit holes of individual candidates. As evidenced by ramage's comment, s/he was referring directly to Hillary and that's fine, at least it was an attempt to engage in conversation. When I put in murder, I was thinking of Edward Kennedy. Paying for mistress's abortions, John Edwards. But you go right on ahead assuming I only mean Trump. (Talk about TDS)

The goal of THIS topic is that it was intended to be a discussion of whether we hold any of our elected representatives accountable for their actions and what actions are those which cross the line, and if anyone was willing to commit in writing to that. I find it intriguing that y'all aren't willing to commit to any single crime or choice above and simply bitch about the nature of this post, making incorrect assumptions about my intentions starting it and ignoring the exact language I specifically chose in starting it.

Do we simply want to keep bitching about the shitty state of our society and government and keep blaming everyone else for our problems or take a stand say enough is enough? Are any of us willing to say X is a no-go for me and I will fight to get rid of them or simply keep letting them get away with immoral and/or illegal behavior.