the truth starts to appear......COST of the shutdown

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homeagain created the topic: the truth starts to appear......COST of the shutdown 08 Jan 2019 08:15 #1

www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/politics/g...-impact-effects.html

THE KING, in all his wisdom ,is going to appear on television this eve and he will ATTEMPT to
offer proof the of the immediate and urgent need for a wall......those who have a MACRO view
know the truth.....the manufactured maneuver will be interesting to watch....IF you care to hear lies.jmo

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FredHayek replied the topic: the truth starts to appear......COST of the shutdown 09 Jan 2019 15:33 #2

Partial government shutdown doesn't appear to be affecting the stock market is up today. And with unemployment the lowest in decades, back to the 1960's, this would be an excellent time for government workers sitting at home to get jobs in the private sector where wages are rising and nationwide shutouts don't occur. They would feel so much more fulfilled than just shuffling papers for some bureaucrat. All the regulation has really gone overboard. I saw this week that Boulder actually feels the need to write pages on which Christmas, er, holiday, lights are illegal. How fulfilling must a career in this be! Making sure lights don't use too much power or reflect too much light into the night sky.


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hillfarmer replied the topic: the truth starts to appear......COST of the shutdown 09 Jan 2019 16:35 #3

Let's extend that thought:

We really need to get rid of all that bureaucracy. That red tape has been keeping the skies entirely too clean and the water way to clear of those wonderful toxins. We also need to keep those bureaucrats from preventing us from riding our ATVs anywhere we feel like in our national parks and then cleaning up after us. Those government workers should be downright glad that we have shown them how much we dislike them and how unimportant their jobs are so they can go out and get some real jobs instead.

I sincerely hope this is not the direction in which we are headed...

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FredHayek replied the topic: the truth starts to appear......COST of the shutdown 11 Jan 2019 10:40 #4

Animas toxic river pollution happened with a EPA fully staffed under green President Obama. So far that is much worse than a little trash and a couple cut down trees.


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homeagain replied the topic: the truth starts to appear......COST of the shutdown 11 Jan 2019 11:38 #5

FredHayek wrote: Partial government shutdown doesn't appear to be affecting the stock market is up today. And with unemployment the lowest in decades, back to the 1960's, this would be an excellent time for government workers sitting at home to get jobs in the private sector where wages are rising and nationwide shutouts don't occur. They would feel so much more fulfilled than just shuffling papers for some bureaucrat. All the regulation has really gone overboard. I saw this week that Boulder actually feels the need to write pages on which Christmas, er, holiday, lights are illegal. How fulfilling must a career in this be! Making sure lights don't use too much power or reflect too much light into the night sky.


www.businessinsider.com/miami-airport-sh...ment-shutdown-2019-1

it appears you have a micro view of reality.......we are entering a crisis condition that will continue to evolve to a point of no return......unless there is a compromise. RECOVERY will
not be easy nor expeditious......hope those who have vac plans to fly will rethink their options

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FredHayek replied the topic: the truth starts to appear......COST of the shutdown 12 Jan 2019 12:09 #6

Everything is a crisis! Hardly, you would be amazed at how much of this economy doesn't need federal monkeying around with. So much of the tasks the Feds do can just be farmed out to the states. Who knows more about Sage Grouse? Colorado Parks and Wildlife? Or some bureaucrat in a plush office overlooking the Potomac River?


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hillfarmer replied the topic: the truth starts to appear......COST of the shutdown 12 Jan 2019 16:07 #7

The reality is never as black and white as some might paint it. Are there areas of federal overreach? Sure. But there are just as many areas where state control would be disastrous. Federal regulation of air standards and environmental controls is not something that can simply be delegated to states or local governments. The interconnected natural systems are beyond simple political boundaries and have to be managed at a macro level, not a myopic local level. Your example of the sage grouse is a good example of this. Yes, Colorado biologists might know more about local habitat and be able to see that habitat more easily, but if you look at where the sage grouse is endangered you will see that it transcends the boundaries of Colorado - it is a federal level problem.

And your depiction of a federal worker who might work on this is purposely belittling and naive. The federal workers who would be working on this are primarily field biologists who are scientists and naturalists.

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homeagain replied the topic: the truth starts to appear......COST of the shutdown 13 Jan 2019 07:34 #8

FredHayek wrote: Partial government shutdown doesn't appear to be affecting the stock market is up today. And with unemployment the lowest in decades, back to the 1960's, this would be an excellent time for government workers sitting at home to get jobs in the private sector where wages are rising and nationwide shutouts don't occur. They would feel so much more fulfilled than just shuffling papers for some bureaucrat. All the regulation has really gone overboard. I saw this week that Boulder actually feels the need to write pages on which Christmas, er, holiday, lights are illegal. How fulfilling must a career in this be! Making sure lights don't use too much power or reflect too much light into the night sky.


www.cnn.com/2019/01/11/us/california-jos...down-trnd/index.html

YOUR version of the TRUTH is warped and woefully lacking in how much "policing" is providing
a level of protection to the earth. I find your pov incredible mopic and mis informed....jmo

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FredHayek replied the topic: the truth starts to appear......COST of the shutdown 13 Jan 2019 09:43 #9

States already monitor and control their own air. California and Colorado mandate gasoline mixes for different regions, along with other states. States also have their own emission standards. Why can't they control their own wildlife? Especially non-migratory animals like Sage Grouse. But thanks for giving me the good laugh of using CNN as your source. Their reigning idiot, Acosta, went down to the border and said this town doesn't have fencing and doesn't need it. He was on the Rio Grande with a couple border guard stations close to where he did his report. They patrol the river there and intercept illegals trying to swim or boat across. So the river is a natural barrier.


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Blazer Bob replied the topic: the truth starts to appear......COST of the shutdown 14 Jan 2019 16:12 #10

My scalp has been on fire so often my scalp hurts.

:icefishing: Another crisis averted.

"DENVER (AP) — Volunteers have stepped forward to help clean up Rocky Mountain National Park during the partial federal shutdown.

But The Denver Post reports that volunteers over the weekend found little to clean.

After reading news stories about trash and dirty bathrooms at the park, Canon City resident Jason Moore, along with local chapters of the Libertarian Party of Colorado, organized a Facebook event to clean up the waste.

But when he arrived Sunday morning at the Beaver Meadows Visitor Center, he found "immaculate" bathrooms and facilities covered only in snow."...
www.usnews.com/news/best-states/colorado...untain-national-park

Coast Guard members will get paid next week, despite the government shutdown

www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-cong...government-shutdown/

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