Can Someone Explain Why Many Conservatives call Dems the Party of Hate

ScienceChic wrote: PS, I think it would be fair to say that almost all white nationalists are conservatives, but wouldn't you agree that not all conservatives are white nationalists? What I see in many of your statements is labeling all Democrats as the extremists. They do not espouse the values of the Democratic Party, and they should be condemned more loudly by moderate Dems just like white nationalists should be condemned more loudly by conservatives. That example of Democrats being against civil rights, for example, is neglecting a whole lot of context and history of who those politicians were, who they became, and how many Democrats voted for civil rights and how many Republicans did and did not. History is much more complex and nuanced than that simple picture of who voted for and against.

Lest we forget, some conservatives have a history of fomenting hate (Ann Coulter, Steve King, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, David Duke, Richard Spencer, etc) and trying to get involved in people's personal lives as well, it doesn't mean that the entire membership of the Republican Party is like that.

Lumping everyone, even the worst of the worst, as "the main party" is how dialog gets shut down, we distrust each other more, and the divide grows even wider between us. It's unproductive and harmful, and both liberals and conservatives do it.

Yes, political correctness has gone too far in that it's no longer about trying to open minds, educate, and increase empathy/understanding, but about judging, condemning, and actively "canceling" those who are perceived to offend. It's gone too far (like those assholes harassing restaurant go-ers) and it needs to stop. The way JK Rowling was/is treated for her views, which honestly are not that controversial, is horrific and I was appalled. But only those individuals who commit those atrocious acts, both liberals and conservatives, should be condemned, not an entire political group to whom they may or may not belong. Our political groups are not going away, they are made up of us, and we need to stop making assumptions about each other and find common ground once again.

As I've shared before:
What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists, is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. The evil is not what they say about their cause, but what they say about their opponents. 
Robert Kennedy

It's far past time that we all lift up moderate, sane voices and condemn the intolerant. On both sides.

ScienceChic wrote: PS, I think it would be fair to say that almost all white nationalists are conservatives, but wouldn't you agree that not all conservatives are white nationalists? What I see in many of your statements is labeling all Democrats as the extremists. They do not espouse the values of the Democratic Party, and they should be condemned more loudly by moderate Dems just like white nationalists should be condemned more loudly by conservatives. That example of Democrats being against civil rights, for example, is neglecting a whole lot of context and history of who those politicians were, who they became, and how many Democrats voted for civil rights and how many Republicans did and did not. History is much more complex and nuanced than that simple picture of who voted for and against.

Lest we forget, some conservatives have a history of fomenting hate (Ann Coulter, Steve King, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, David Duke, Richard Spencer, etc) and trying to get involved in people's personal lives as well, it doesn't mean that the entire membership of the Republican Party is like that.

Lumping everyone, even the worst of the worst, as "the main party" is how dialog gets shut down, we distrust each other more, and the divide grows even wider between us. It's unproductive and harmful, and both liberals and conservatives do it.

Yes, political correctness has gone too far in that it's no longer about trying to open minds, educate, and increase empathy/understanding, but about judging, condemning, and actively "canceling" those who are perceived to offend. It's gone too far (like those assholes harassing restaurant go-ers) and it needs to stop. The way JK Rowling was/is treated for her views, which honestly are not that controversial, is horrific and I was appalled. But only those individuals who commit those atrocious acts, both liberals and conservatives, should be condemned, not an entire political group to whom they may or may not belong. Our political groups are not going away, they are made up of us, and we need to stop making assumptions about each other and find common ground once again.

As I've shared before:
What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists, is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. The evil is not what they say about their cause, but what they say about their opponents. 
Robert Kennedy

It's far past time that we all lift up moderate, sane voices and condemn the intolerant. On both sides.

Pony Soldier wrote:

ScienceChic wrote: PS, I think it would be fair to say that almost all white nationalists are conservatives, but wouldn't you agree that not all conservatives are white nationalists? What I see in many of your statements is labeling all Democrats as the extremists. They do not espouse the values of the Democratic Party, and they should be condemned more loudly by moderate Dems just like white nationalists should be condemned more loudly by conservatives. That example of Democrats being against civil rights, for example, is neglecting a whole lot of context and history of who those politicians were, who they became, and how many Democrats voted for civil rights and how many Republicans did and did not. History is much more complex and nuanced than that simple picture of who voted for and against.

Lest we forget, some conservatives have a history of fomenting hate (Ann Coulter, Steve King, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, David Duke, Richard Spencer, etc) and trying to get involved in people's personal lives as well, it doesn't mean that the entire membership of the Republican Party is like that.

Lumping everyone, even the worst of the worst, as "the main party" is how dialog gets shut down, we distrust each other more, and the divide grows even wider between us. It's unproductive and harmful, and both liberals and conservatives do it.

Yes, political correctness has gone too far in that it's no longer about trying to open minds, educate, and increase empathy/understanding, but about judging, condemning, and actively "canceling" those who are perceived to offend. It's gone too far (like those assholes harassing restaurant go-ers) and it needs to stop. The way JK Rowling was/is treated for her views, which honestly are not that controversial, is horrific and I was appalled. But only those individuals who commit those atrocious acts, both liberals and conservatives, should be condemned, not an entire political group to whom they may or may not belong. Our political groups are not going away, they are made up of us, and we need to stop making assumptions about each other and find common ground once again.

As I've shared before:
What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists, is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. The evil is not what they say about their cause, but what they say about their opponents. 
Robert Kennedy

It's far past time that we all lift up moderate, sane voices and condemn the intolerant. On both sides.

Thumper asked a question and I answered it the best that I could. If you disagree, please tell me why these are not the reasons for the label (see thread title). Of course there are nuances and mixtures of viewpoints on both sides. The projection thing just kind of ticked me off because most violence and hate right now is flowing from left to right. It will soon be reciprocated unfortunately. I don't think there is any way to stop it now.
You had democrat congress critters going out advocating violence on television interviews (see Maxine Waters). What, exactly, did you expect? I'm sorry but your party has gone crazy. It espouses hate and violence. Not every member does, but the party does. People watch CNN and MSNBC and think the violence is only coming from the right. They show a couple standing in front of their house with guns and portray them as evil. They were even charged! You had Obama turbocharging the situation in Ferguson when Michael Brown was shot while trying to rip the gun off of a cop to use against him. He said "Hands up don't shoot" and riots started. It took months if not years to get the real story and find out that it never happened yet it is still spouted on CNN and MSNBC as an example of white on black crime. You have a presidential candidate and a debate moderator ganging up on the president shouting "Do it now!" and he gets flustered and issues a lame statement because he doesn't even know who the proud boys are. Trump is a rude arrogant insecure baby, but he's not a white supremacist.

Pony Soldier wrote: Maybe it started when democrats argues against freeing slaves violently, even killing a president. Could be the Jim Crow laws that fought hard against the rights of blacks. It was possibly the hordes of white robed vigilantes that intimidated and murdered blacks in the south for years. Or maybe it was the democrats who fought against the civil rights act. Or could it be more recent? President Obama stoking racial tensions and violence over made up incidents such as "Hands up. Don't shoot!"? Democrats opening fire on a republican baseball game? Democrats following republicans into restaurants and shops with their cell phones screaming at them while they are trying to have a dinner with family? "Demonstrators" attacking sitting senators while they are trying to get home from a speech with their wife? Hordes of looters and rioters burning down entire sections of cities that are minority owned causing the largest ever insurance event in the history of our country even thought most of the businesses weren't even covered?

Projection??

Really???????

Get off of CNN and open your eyes!