Opinion: The GOP has five factions now. All see a different future...

I found this opinion piece interesting...

The transformation of the Republican Party from the home of the nation’s educated business elites to one whose voters draw primarily from the working class is likely to be President Donald Trump’s most enduring legacy. How to reorient the party’s domestic policy dogma to reflect the desires of its new voters, however, remains a work in progress.

The GOP’s new voter coalition is no longer unified around the party’s old verities. A January poll of Trump voters I crafted clearly shows this. Trump’s coalition is divided on core economic questions such as cutting entitlement spending, free trade and cutting the income tax rate paid by those in the top bracket. The party is even split over whether to provide all Americans with a basic minimum standard of living provided people work to the best of their ability. In each case, the new Republicans — people who voted for President Barack Obama in 2012 and Trump in 2020 — are significantly to the left of the base GOP voter.

Republican officeholders and prospective presidential candidates all see this disunity, but they are divided on how to respond. So far, they have separated themselves into five rough groups.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/...-future-their-party/

Need sub. Can u recap the five factors?

Just reading what was copied from the article, I see lots of opinion and not much fact. The part left out in this article is the major split in the Democrat party during the primaries and then their 'moderate' old white guy suddenly went hard left after being elected and the whole party forgot about anything moderate and unifying.

I see two groups in the Republican party... group #1 is the people who are all in for the bloated bureaucracy and lifer politicians who need big government to stay in power. Goup #2 wants accountablity and wants to flush the elites out of power, the people who have become millionaires by selling their influence. Group #2 has the most traction because trump exposed the corruption that's in every agency, from the FBI, State Dept, Dept of Education, the CIA, and every other agency that only thrives as the government grows larger and the power of the people who pay their salaries diminishes.

I just watched this last night and these two women gave beautiful descriptions of the problems we are facing from both establishment Republicans and Democrats who mostly all have the same goals, which is to keep Americans dependent and submissive so they can become more powerful and rich.

The clip is about 5 minutes 14:25 to 20:00. You may not like what these women have to say, but I'd like to know which parts you think are false. If you really want to defend Biden as being truthful, you can watch from the biginning where Hilton lists some big lies that are being ignored by most of the media.

homeagain wrote: Need sub. Can u recap the five factors?

1. The Old Guard are those who don’t want to change at all.
2. The Adapters recognize that times have changed, but propose minimal shifts in party doctrine.
3. The Searchers are those who know they have to change but are still actively trying to find their way.
4. The Reformers have vocally been calling for such a comprehensive rethink for many years.
5. The Prophets. Led by Ohio senatorial candidate and author J.D. Vance, the Prophets call for even more change than the Reformers.

And yes, Rick. You lots of opinion in the article because it's an Opinion piece - clearly labeled as such.

Wayne Harrison wrote:

homeagain wrote: Need sub. Can u recap the five factors?

1. The Old Guard are those who don’t want to change at all.
2. The Adapters recognize that times have changed, but propose minimal shifts in party doctrine.
3. The Searchers are those who know they have to change but are still actively trying to find their way.
4. The Reformers have vocally been calling for such a comprehensive rethink for many years.
5. The Prophets. Led by Ohio senatorial candidate and author J.D. Vance, the Prophets call for even more change than the Reformers.

And yes, Rick. You lots of opinion in the article because it's an Opinion piece - clearly labeled as such.

AND THAT, my friend,Rick, describes the "fourth turning"......(bolded)...we r "birthing a new nation.

Happens with all parties. As a Republican delegate, we fight over what positions to put on the platform. I think the GOP will have to be devote more money to the social safety net if they want to compete with the socialist Democrats. No longer is it what can you do for your country. Now it is what can you get the Feds to pay you. Child care, $100 bonus to get vaccinated, bail out your masters in pottery.

FredHayek wrote: I think the GOP will have to be devote more money to the social safety net if they want to compete with the socialist Democrats.

Really? If Republicans go full on socialist by trying to be the more generous Santa Claus, there would be no point in voting for a Republican. Republicans are weak in general because not enough stand up to corrupt tyrants like Pelosi and are afraid of the leftist media, but there are still enough of them that are slowing down the insane policies that will destroy this country.

Rick wrote:

FredHayek wrote: I think the GOP will have to be devote more money to the social safety net if they want to compete with the socialist Democrats.

Really? If Republicans go full on socialist by trying to be the more generous Santa Claus, there would be no point in voting for a Republican. Republicans are weak in general because not enough stand up to corrupt tyrants like Pelosi and are afraid of the leftist media, but there are still enough of them that are slowing down the insane policies that will destroy this country.

I didn't say they have to embrace socialism but despite the press labeling them as heartless, many soft Republicans out there who do want to help the homeless, give aid to the temporarily unemployed, and support those who due to mental and physical conditions can no longer support themselves.

FredHayek wrote:

Rick wrote:

FredHayek wrote: I think the GOP will have to be devote more money to the social safety net if they want to compete with the socialist Democrats.

Really? If Republicans go full on socialist by trying to be the more generous Santa Claus, there would be no point in voting for a Republican. Republicans are weak in general because not enough stand up to corrupt tyrants like Pelosi and are afraid of the leftist media, but there are still enough of them that are slowing down the insane policies that will destroy this country.

I didn't say they have to embrace socialism but despite the press labeling them as heartless, many soft Republicans out there who do want to help the homeless, give aid to the temporarily unemployed, and support those who due to mental and physical conditions can no longer support themselves.

No offense Fred, but I you're thinking too much like a Democrat. Democrats think all problems can be fixed by throwing money at people and expecting them to spend it right. The war on poverty has been an epic failure and has just caused more people to be dependent on government. When it comes to our public schools, that is another massive failure because the idea was to just keep paying teachers and administrators more and better ediucated kids will follow. Our country now pays more per child than any other and the results are dismal.

If Republicans use the Democrat model for fixing everything, then we are all doomed.

Rick wrote: =If Republicans use the Democrat model for fixing everything, then we are all doomed.

Yeah, who wants to end up like Sweden?