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Senator Sinema Goes Independent!
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09 Dec 2022 09:59 #1
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Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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The Arizona senator is leaving the Democrat Party to become an independent. She says she will not caucus with the Democrats either, unlike Senator Bernie Sanders. This might upset committee assignments and judicial nominations. Will Senator Manchin join her for his most likely last term? He is upset that Democrats refused to add an amendment to the Defense Bill that makes domestic energy independence easier.
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10 Dec 2022 08:33 #2
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It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy
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Did Sinema say she wouldn't caucus with Dems or is that an assumption? It doesn't matter anyway since there's too many weak Republicans like McConnell who don't fight for conservatives and end up bending over for the communists, AKA Democrats. She's now worthless to both parties, just like Manchin and should start looking for a real job where she can be a productive member of society. She really pissed off the hags at The View, so she does get points for that.
It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy
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10 Dec 2022 08:51 #3
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She says she won't caucus with the Democrats, but Chuck Schumer is letting her keep her committee assignments. Maybe he knows a senator who votes Democrat 90% of the time is better than having her join the Republican Party. This will be the 3rd independent senator. Could this be the start of a trend?
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11 Dec 2022 13:41 #4
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Her vote is now one of the most powerful in the Senate.Rick wrote: Did Sinema say she wouldn't caucus with Dems or is that an assumption? It doesn't matter anyway since there's too many weak Republicans like McConnell who don't fight for conservatives and end up bending over for the communists, AKA Democrats. She's now worthless to both parties, just like Manchin and should start looking for a real job where she can be a productive member of society. She really pissed off the hags at The View, so she does get points for that.
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11 Dec 2022 16:12 #5
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HOW refreshing that would be.....NO "sheep",just serious considerations of issues.UNAffiliates unite
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[/b]FredHayek wrote: She says she won't caucus with the Democrats, but Chuck Schumer is letting her keep her committee assignments. Maybe he knows a senator who votes Democrat 90% of the time is better than having her join the Republican Party. This will be the 3rd independent senator. Could this be the start of a trend?
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HOW refreshing that would be.....NO "sheep",just serious considerations of issues.UNAffiliates unite
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11 Dec 2022 18:23 #6
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Her vote was more powerful when the Senate was 50/50 and they needed Harris to break the tie.
It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy
George Orwell
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Mary Scott wrote:
Her vote is now one of the most powerful in the Senate.Rick wrote: Did Sinema say she wouldn't caucus with Dems or is that an assumption? It doesn't matter anyway since there's too many weak Republicans like McConnell who don't fight for conservatives and end up bending over for the communists, AKA Democrats. She's now worthless to both parties, just like Manchin and should start looking for a real job where she can be a productive member of society. She really pissed off the hags at The View, so she does get points for that.
Her vote was more powerful when the Senate was 50/50 and they needed Harris to break the tie.
It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy
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11 Dec 2022 18:28 #7
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It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy
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Not really if you consider how different the sides are. You say you're an "Indy" but I cant imagine you would vote for a Republican. There is no middle if you look at the issues and the party platforms. When one side what's to kneecap the economy by destroying our affordable energy and the other side wants to open up our energy sector and become independent AGAIN, where would the middle be... partial destruction?homeagain wrote:
[/b]FredHayek wrote: She says she won't caucus with the Democrats, but Chuck Schumer is letting her keep her committee assignments. Maybe he knows a senator who votes Democrat 90% of the time is better than having her join the Republican Party. This will be the 3rd independent senator. Could this be the start of a trend?
Less Americans are Party members.
HOW refreshing that would be.....NO "sheep",just serious considerations of issues.UNAffiliates unite
It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy
George Orwell
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11 Dec 2022 22:44 #8
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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I applaud her for this move, and for her repeated bi-partisan actions throughout her term. What she has to say below is right on the nose.
I will say it again: extremism is poison and needs to stop. If you support extremist representatives and candidates for office, you are part of the problem. Compromise is not weakness and the party opposite your views is not evil, traitorous, or destroying our country.
Sen. Kyrsten Sinema: Why I'm registering as an independent
Opinion: The Arizona senator explains why she has left the Democratic Party.
Kyrsten Sinema, opinion contributor, AZ Central | December 9, 2022
FYI: Sinema told Politico that she doesn’t plan to join the Republicans.
I will say it again: extremism is poison and needs to stop. If you support extremist representatives and candidates for office, you are part of the problem. Compromise is not weakness and the party opposite your views is not evil, traitorous, or destroying our country.
Sen. Kyrsten Sinema: Why I'm registering as an independent
Opinion: The Arizona senator explains why she has left the Democratic Party.
Kyrsten Sinema, opinion contributor, AZ Central | December 9, 2022
Everyday Americans are increasingly left behind by national parties’ rigid partisanship, which has hardened in recent years. Pressures in both parties pull leaders to the edges, allowing the loudest, most extreme voices to determine their respective parties’ priorities and expecting the rest of us to fall in line.
In catering to the fringes, neither party has demonstrated much tolerance for diversity of thought. Bipartisan compromise is seen as a rarely acceptable last resort, rather than the best way to achieve lasting progress. Payback against the opposition party has replaced thoughtful legislating.
I work proudly with senators in both parties who have similarly rejected political extremes and forged consensus, helping drain some of the poison from today’s politics.
Americans are more united than the national parties would have us believe. We’ve shown that a diverse democracy can still function effectively.
FYI: Sinema told Politico that she doesn’t plan to join the Republicans.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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12 Dec 2022 08:46 #9
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Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
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President George Washington hated political parties. Vote for the candidate, not their party. Senator Sinema has an interesting background, she started out in the Green Party.
Will she have more power as an independent than as a Democrat senator? I think she just might, especially with the current breakdown of the Senate. That might benefit the citizens of Arizona, especially since the Republicans legalized earmarks for this upcoming session.
Will she have more power as an independent than as a Democrat senator? I think she just might, especially with the current breakdown of the Senate. That might benefit the citizens of Arizona, especially since the Republicans legalized earmarks for this upcoming session.
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12 Dec 2022 09:51 #10
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TWO WORDS NIKKI HALLEY......now say I;m sorry, I was wrong.
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Rick wrote:
Not really if you consider how different the sides are. You say you're an "Indy" but I cant imagine you would vote for a Republican. There is no middle if you look at the issues and the party platforms. When one side what's to kneecap the economy by destroying our affordable energy and the other side wants to open up our energy sector and become independent AGAIN, where would the middle be... partial destruction?homeagain wrote:
[/b]FredHayek wrote: She says she won't caucus with the Democrats, but Chuck Schumer is letting her keep her committee assignments. Maybe he knows a senator who votes Democrat 90% of the time is better than having her join the Republican Party. This will be the 3rd independent senator. Could this be the start of a trend?
Less Americans are Party members.
HOW refreshing that would be.....NO "sheep",just serious considerations of issues.UNAffiliates unite
TWO WORDS NIKKI HALLEY......now say I;m sorry, I was wrong.
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