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10 Oct 2024 10:14 #31 by koobookie

FredHayek wrote: Every day you astound me with how little you comprehend
Majority rules=Mob rule.


So the way we elect local representatives is mob rule?
The way we elect U.S. House and Senators is mob rule?
The way Coloradans change the state constitution is mob rule?

If I understand you correctly, any election where a person or issue is chosen by majority is mob rule?

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10 Oct 2024 21:49 - 10 Oct 2024 21:49 #32 by Blazer Bob

koobookie wrote: I want the president to be elected via popular vote, not by the electoral college. Just like how we elect local and state politicians, just like how we elect U.S. House and Senate. Got it?


No you don't if the electoral college favored Harris you would be all for it.

Now you can unbottle some of your faux outrage for telling you what you think.

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10 Oct 2024 22:39 #33 by FredHayek
Democrats internal polling must be saying that Harris is losing the Electoral College Vote.

They are told to complain about the Electoral College. They must know she will lose the race.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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11 Oct 2024 10:32 #34 by koobookie

Blazer Bob wrote: No you don't if the electoral college favored Harris you would be all for it.

Now you can unbottle some of your faux outrage for telling you what you think.


No, you are incorrect. I have never been "for" the EC. I want it removed, even if Harris won the EC but lost the popular vote.

The EC is unfair to voters. Why is it that you think it is fair that a candidate can win more votes but lose the election?

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11 Oct 2024 12:07 #35 by driver8

koobookie wrote:

Blazer Bob wrote: No you don't if the electoral college favored Harris you would be all for it.

Now you can unbottle some of your faux outrage for telling you what you think.


No, you are incorrect. I have never been "for" the EC. I want it removed, even if Harris won the EC but lost the popular vote.

The EC is unfair to voters. Why is it that you think it is fair that a candidate can win more votes but lose the election?



He is only for it since it's HIS cult/party getting the benefit.

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11 Oct 2024 12:24 #36 by FredHayek

driver8 wrote:

koobookie wrote:

Blazer Bob wrote: No you don't if the electoral college favored Harris you would be all for it.

Now you can unbottle some of your faux outrage for telling you what you think.


No, you are incorrect. I have never been "for" the EC. I want it removed, even if Harris won the EC but lost the popular vote.

The EC is unfair to voters. Why is it that you think it is fair that a candidate can win more votes but lose the election?



He is only for it since it's HIS cult/party getting the benefit.


Or because it has been the law of the land since 1789? Like the Bill of Rights.

Originalists rock!

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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11 Oct 2024 12:26 #37 by koobookie

FredHayek wrote: Or because it has been the law of the land since 1789? Like the Bill of Rights.

Originalists rock!


Why would you be "for" something that disenfranchises voters, i.e., the Electoral College?

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11 Oct 2024 12:31 #38 by FredHayek

koobookie wrote:

FredHayek wrote: Or because it has been the law of the land since 1789? Like the Bill of Rights.

Originalists rock!


Why would you be "for" something that disenfranchises voters, i.e., the Electoral College?


Why has no one successfully got an amendment started to repeal the Electoral College? Think they might have a problem getting small states like Delaware and New Mexico to give up their Electoral Votes?

By enfranchising individual voters, you are disenfranchising states.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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11 Oct 2024 12:49 #39 by koobookie

FredHayek wrote: By enfranchising individual voters, you are disenfranchising states.


States aren't people, Fred. All states have representation, i.e., two senators and at least one representative. The EC is only for electing a president.

Explain to me why the election comes down to only a handful of states. To use your "logic," do you suppose that the safe states feel disenfranchised?

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11 Oct 2024 14:14 #40 by FredHayek

koobookie wrote:

FredHayek wrote: By enfranchising individual voters, you are disenfranchising states.


States aren't people, Fred. All states have representation, i.e., two senators and at least one representative. The EC is only for electing a president.

Explain to me why the election comes down to only a handful of states. To use your "logic," do you suppose that the safe states feel disenfranchised?


There have been plenty of elections that didn't come down to battleground states.
Hillary's loss in 2016 was because she refused to campaign in what she thought were Blue Wall/ Rust Belt states which were traditional deep blue strongholds.

She overestimated her popularity with blue collar union voters and even white women.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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