A great quote. Is it OK that our Country is like this?

And can anyone show me where in this fantastic 2000 page healthcare bill that it says that if an illegal immigrant does not show proof of insurance like 'legal' Americans do, that they get fined or their wages garnished? I guess I missed that.

I guess I'd pay my taxes for the same reason I wouldn't shoplift even though so many people get away with it.

grrr wrote: I guess I'd pay my taxes for the same reason I wouldn't shoplift even though so many people get away with it.

But why aren't the laws equal for everyone? Why don't illegals get audited and fined and thrown in jail for not filing? And why are the laws different in this healthcare bill? Why is it that if you are a 'legal' citizen, then you are forced to pay for healthcare or be fined? And if you are a 'legal' citizen and walk into an emergency room, you are treated but then you are reported for not having insurance and you are fined? But if you are here illegally, then you can just walk into an emergency room and you are treated and you can leave without any consequences? WHy do illegals have more rights and not have to obey our laws in those two areas?

The Viking wrote:

grrr wrote: I guess I'd pay my taxes for the same reason I wouldn't shoplift even though so many people get away with it.

But why aren't the laws equal for everyone? Why don't illegals get audited and fined and thrown in jail for not filing? And why are the laws different in this healthcare bill? Why is it that if you are a 'legal' citizen, then you are forced to pay for healthcare or be fined? And if you are a 'legal' citizen and walk into an emergency room, you are treated but then you are reported for not having insurance and you are fined? But if you are here illegally, then you can just walk into an emergency room and you are treated and you can leave without any consequences? WHy do illegals have more rights and not have to obey our laws in those two areas?

Because we have to catch them first, Viking.

Why aren't all speeders on 285 stopped and fined?

The Viking wrote:

grrr wrote: I guess I'd pay my taxes for the same reason I wouldn't shoplift even though so many people get away with it.

But why aren't the laws equal for everyone? Why don't illegals get audited and fined and thrown in jail for not filing? And why are the laws different in this healthcare bill? Why is it that if you are a 'legal' citizen, then you are forced to pay for healthcare or be fined? And if you are a 'legal' citizen and walk into an emergency room, you are treated but then you are reported for not having insurance and you are fined? But if you are here illegally, then you can just walk into an emergency room and you are treated and you can leave without any consequences? WHy do illegals have more rights and not have to obey our laws in those two areas?

To the best of my knowledge, the laws will be equal for all citizens or resident aliens. Since illegal immigrants don't fit in to those categories, there isn't much leverage to penalize them. They're essentially being treated the same as people who visit the country. Don't get me wrong, they're not welcome guests & I hope the enforcement of relevant laws is improved (and possibly aided by the insurance check). That said, I'm not aware of any special protections or privileges granted to illegals under the law & as has already been stated this program wasn't put in place to solve the illegal immigration problem.

Use a credit or debit card and get asked for a photo id. You may get carded (license check) for alcohol purchase. Write a check and expect to show your license, and it goes on and on. Keep up the bs on it being racist to prove who you are, someone may actually believe it.

HEARTLESS wrote: Use a credit or debit card and get asked for a photo id. You may get carded (license check) for alcohol purchase. Write a check and expect to show your license, and it goes on and on. Keep up the bs on it being racist to prove who you are, someone may actually believe it.

1. No one said it was inherently racist; however, I'll assert that law enforcement decisions will be driven by race in more instances if this is implemented.

2. You may be stupid enough to give up the protections afforded by due process but many of us are not.

3. The scenarios you reference above are all very different from contact with a law enforcement officer in which an individual is required to provide specific documentation without any triggering action on the part of the individual. You see, a clerk can ask you for an ID, but if you're not comfortable with providing it, for any reason, you can simply decline to do so. I'm guessing the finer points are meaningless to you, but I'm thankful that our country has a legal tradition of acknowledging & supporting these details.

I didn't know hospital emergency rooms were supposed to enforce immigration laws? How did that sneak in there?

The Viking wrote: "Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Congress wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens". -Ben Stein

Don't you think this is backwards?

Do you have to prove you have auto insurance if the cops pull you over?

If so, why haven't you freaked out over that?