Republicans: No Christmas for jobless

Local_Historian wrote: Just sayin - you making a liveable income on $7.25 an hour?

If a person is making $7.25 an hour and wants/needs to make more, they have many choices.

Be the best $7.25 an hour worker and earn a promotion...maybe work your way up the company ladder--and pay scale--that way.

Go to night school and obtain training in areas that demand higher pay...increase your value.

Develop skills to provide needed products or services and start your own business.

If the person has no desire or initiative to increase their value in the workplace, they can start a commune with their other $7.25 an hour buddies. That was popular in the 60's; maybe its time has come again.

Science Chic wrote: Did anyone see the news story that there were more people who quit last month than were laid off (indicating that people are becoming less concerned about being able to find another job)? So it would appear that we've bottomed out and will probably hold steady at the current unemployment rate for now.
I am all for having a deadline on unemployment benefits - too many people require a deadline to get motivated. But the minimum wage needs to be raised as well.

I have several colleagues that have been waiting to quit their jobs. They've been unhappy for some time, yet know that they can't find another job and are stuck. What's worse is their bosses know it and abuse them, demanding extra (unpaid) overtime, and over work their employees.

It could be that these people who quit decided that they had just had enough.

Until illegals are removed from the US, the job market wages will remain soft.

Science Chic wrote: Did anyone see the news story that there were more people who quit last month than were laid off (indicating that people are becoming less concerned about being able to find another job)? So it would appear that we've bottomed out and will probably hold steady at the current unemployment rate for now.
I am all for having a deadline on unemployment benefits - too many people require a deadline to get motivated. But the minimum wage needs to be raised as well.

Citation? Did they figured they could make more on unemployment coupled with free Obamacare?

JusSayin wrote:

Local_Historian wrote: Just sayin - you making a liveable income on $7.25 an hour?

If a person is making $7.25 an hour and wants/needs to make more, they have many choices.

Be the best $7.25 an hour worker and earn a promotion...maybe work your way up the company ladder--and pay scale--that way.

Go to night school and obtain training in areas that demand higher pay...increase your value.

Develop skills to provide needed products or services and start your own business.

If the person has no desire or initiative to increase their value in the workplace, they can start a commune with their other $7.25 an hour buddies. That was popular in the 60's; maybe its time has come again.

Maybe was the key word in your first statement.

Second statement - where do these people find the time and money to further education? Or are you saying more debt is the acceptable way of life? And how about those with college degrees, some rather advanced, who have been 'downsized' out of their industry and cannot get hired in it again because they are overqualified or too old?

Starting a business does take some money - which brings us back to the second one. And the average business does not run int he black for at least three years - some never do.

Not everything in the world is as black and white as you like to make it sound. But that something you understand when you find yourself downsized, over educated, underemployed and pretty much getting too old to be considered worth hiring.

That age, BTW, is 40.

Local_Historian wrote: Second statement - where do these people find the time and money to further education? Or are you saying more debt is the acceptable way of life? And how about those with college degrees, some rather advanced, who have been 'downsized' out of their industry and cannot get hired in it again because they are overqualified or too old?

Starting a business does take some money - which brings us back to the second one. And the average business does not run int he black for at least three years - some never do.

Not everything in the world is as black and white as you like to make it sound. But that something you understand when you find yourself downsized, over educated, underemployed and pretty much getting too old to be considered worth hiring.

That age, BTW, is 40.

So a handout is easier than hard work, initiative, ingenuity, effort?

There are very, very few people who can HONESTLY bitch and moan about their 'unemployed' status. The work--and the opportunities--are there for those willing to get off the couch (or the chair in front of their computer monitor with 285bound on the screen) and WORK.

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nice sentiments, that ignore reality.....there are not as many jobs available as there are unemployed, some jobs require specific credentials, if you don't have them you don't get the job. When a company downsizes those jobs go away....poof, gone. I submit that there are many people who can honestly bitch and moan about their unemployed status....but I guess it make you feel superior to claim they are all lazy and don't want to work. yeah, they just love losing their jobs, their homes, putting their families thru hell....I'm sure it's a really fun time for them.

On the other hand, I agree that unemployment benefits need an end point, and further extensions are a bad idea.....but you can't deny an unemployment extension to millions of unemployed americans if you are going to turn around and offer an extension of low taxes to the wealthiest citizens, which costs a whole lot more and increases our deficit.