Republicans: No Christmas for jobless

18 Nov 2010 19:06 #21 by LOL

JusSayin wrote: Go to night school and obtain training in areas that demand higher pay...increase your value.


I spoke to one of our top Lab techs about this recently. I told him, you are very smart, go to night school (company pays part for college courses) get an engineering degree. I think he has alot of potential, has a 2-yr Eng Tech deg now,

Same story, excuses, can't do it, no time, etc. blah blah

Sorry it takes some (lots) effort to move up the ladder. I hear more excuses than ambition from young worker slaves. Everyone wants it handed to them these days.

If you want to be, press one. If you want not to be, press 2

Republicans are red, democrats are blue, neither of them, gives a flip about you.

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18 Nov 2010 20:25 #22 by JusSayin

archer wrote: nice sentiments, that ignore reality.....there are not as many jobs available as there are unemployed, some jobs require specific credentials, if you don't have them you don't get the job. When a company downsizes those jobs go away....poof, gone. I submit that there are many people who can honestly bitch and moan about their unemployed status....but I guess it make you feel superior to claim they are all lazy and don't want to work. yeah, they just love losing their jobs, their homes, putting their families thru hell....I'm sure it's a really fun time for them.


I’m not trying to be insensitive. But I truly believe that most people become unemployed and very quickly fall into a dark abyss of despair followed by an extended period of self-pity at which point it becomes a lot easier to blame others than to clean up and go knock on doors and fill out applications. They lack self-motivation. What they need is a job search drill sergeant to get them off their butts and focused on finding a job commensurate with their skill sets and experience.

Now there’s an entrepreneurial opportunity for you with a near limitless customer base: Job Search Drill Sergeant

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19 Nov 2010 13:54 #23 by Valle Girl

navycpo7 wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: So today the Republicans have denied unemployment benefits to the unemployed at the same time they are demanding $1.5 trillion added to the deficit to cut taxes on the wealthiest 2 percent. So at least we know where their priorities are.


If you can't put all the fact down then don't put nothing down. The Republicans did not deny umemployment benefits, what they did was vote down the way the democrats wanted to do it by just adding to the deficit, instead of using unspent money from the stimulus bill. So get it right.


Okay Mr Acme of getting things right...why don't you? "If you can't put all the fact[sic] down then don't put nothing down." Your sentence translates; if you "don't put nothing down," then you put anything down. Although I thought a put down was just that...a put-down. But Something the Dog Said could 'get all the facts right or don't comment at all.'

Whutdoyathink huh? I think one should not criticize others when one cannot construct a grammatically correct statement with which to criticize them. :woo hoo:

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19 Nov 2010 14:55 #24 by navycpo7

Valle Girl wrote:

navycpo7 wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: So today the Republicans have denied unemployment benefits to the unemployed at the same time they are demanding $1.5 trillion added to the deficit to cut taxes on the wealthiest 2 percent. So at least we know where their priorities are.


If you can't put all the fact down then don't put nothing down. The Republicans did not deny umemployment benefits, what they did was vote down the way the democrats wanted to do it by just adding to the deficit, instead of using unspent money from the stimulus bill. So get it right.


Okay Mr Acme of getting things right...why don't you? "If you can't put all the fact[sic] down then don't put nothing down." Your sentence translates; if you "don't put nothing down," then you put anything down. Although I thought a put down was just that...a put-down. But Something the Dog Said could 'get all the facts right or don't comment at all.'

Whutdoyathink huh? I think one should not criticize others when one cannot construct a grammatically correct statement with which to criticize them. :woo hoo:


You can go pull your "I am better than all of you and will pull the english teacher bullsh** on you" with someone else, I do neither care or am worried about if I am grammatically correct or not. You don't like it, get over it. Not a requirement and I don't want to be as perfect as you, so deal with it or go away

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19 Nov 2010 14:57 #25 by BearMtnHIB

So today the Republicans have denied unemployment benefits to the unemployed at the same time they are demanding $1.5 trillion added to the deficit to cut taxes on the wealthiest 2 percent. So at least we know where their priorities are.


A big part of the problem is not understanding how the free market works. If we could get these lefists to think correctly, heck - they might even be able to understand economics. I know.... it's been said before - but you guys still don't get it so we need to keep reminding you over and over again.

Republicans are NOT demanding $1.5 trillion be added to the deficit. All they want is for that money to remain in the HANDS THAT EARNED IT - which is where it will do the most GOOD for the economy.

Until you and the socialists in government get it through your thick skulls that the money people earn belongs to the producers/earners - not the looters in the government, you still have a fundamental misunderstanding of economics. They will not be "adding" to the debt - they will be spending $1.5 trillion TOO MUCH!!

I'm sure that republicans are as concerned about getting people back to work as are the unemployed. Extending their benefits past the 19 months they already get benefits really just amounts to a bigger welfare state. The best scenario is to get them back to work.

You don't help an economy by taxing the best earners more and more. You don't help an economy by extending unemployment benefits on and on.

You can help an economy by taking less money out of it- aka - leaving the money in private hands - which is where real job creation happens.

If you can't think straight - you'll never get it right.

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19 Nov 2010 15:08 - 19 Nov 2010 15:11 #26 by LadyJazzer
Yes, we've all seen how well the lowered tax-rates in the hands of the wealthiest 2% of the population have created so many jobs over the last 8-9 years. Sure worked good, didn't it?

Isn't it fascinating that Clinton was able to create 23.1 million jobs over 8 years with the rates that they are about to return to? (i.e., 39.6% instead of 36% ONLY ON THAT AMOUNT OVER $250,000...)

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19 Nov 2010 15:10 #27 by BearMtnHIB
It worked very very well for the last 225 years - in fact that policy built the greatest and most prosperous country on earth. Even countries like china and india get it now.

What malfunction keeps you from understanding it?

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19 Nov 2010 15:13 #28 by LadyJazzer
Last 225 years?!? I'm not the one with the "malfunction"... rofllol :lol:

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19 Nov 2010 15:14 #29 by BearMtnHIB

Yes, we've all seen how well the lowered tax-rates in the hands of the wealthiest 2% of the population have created so many jobs over the last 8-9 years. Sure worked good, didn't it?


Seriously LJ - do you really think that stealing more money from people who earn it will be helping the economy?

More taxes will help the economy?

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19 Nov 2010 15:18 #30 by Valle Girl

BearMtnHIB wrote:

So today the Republicans have denied unemployment benefits to the unemployed at the same time they are demanding $1.5 trillion added to the deficit to cut taxes on the wealthiest 2 percent. So at least we know where their priorities are.


A big part of the problem is not understanding how the free market works. If we could get these lefists to think correctly, heck - they might even be able to understand economics. I know.... it's been said before - but you guys still don't get it so we need to keep reminding you over and over again.

Republicans are NOT demanding $1.5 trillion be added to the deficit. All they want is for that money to remain in the HANDS THAT EARNED IT - which is where it will do the most GOOD for the economy.

Until you and the socialists in government get it through your thick skulls that the money people earn belongs to the producers/earners - not the looters in the government, you still have a fundamental misunderstanding of economics. They will not be "adding" to the debt - they will be spending $1.5 trillion TOO MUCH!!

I'm sure that republicans are as concerned about getting people back to work as are the unemployed. Extending their benefits past the 19 months they already get benefits really just amounts to a bigger welfare state. The best scenario is to get them back to work.

You don't help an economy by taxing the best earners more and more. You don't help an economy by extending unemployment benefits on and on.

You can help an economy by taking less money out of it- aka - leaving the money in private hands - which is where real job creation happens.

If you can't think straight - you'll never get it right.

Really?
How about this:
IF:
Corporations e.g. the McDonalds of the world, the Marriotts, of the world and the of the world would quit hiring ILLEGALS to do a job for minimum wage or less they wouldn’t come here…do you know what a mechanic makes at sears? $5.25PH base. If you want to make more, then you’d better invent repairs so you can make a good commission.

Guatemalans weren’t ILLEGALLY coming into Mexico and taking Mexican jobs they wouldn’t come here to take ours

We would be willing to harvest our crops, wipe our own asses, and take sh** from someone who didn’t want ketchup on their burger

Asians weren’t stowing away on ships and coming here to work in sweatshops that are pirating labels, or put on the street for prostitution…oh wait we’re only talking about MEXICAN ILLEGALS, my bad

Corporations that “lay-off” skilled or front line management and ship their jobs overseas to pay an Indian, or a Chinaman a sh**-load of $ such as 8.00 PH, would be penalized instead of given a tax break we wouldn’t have unemployment in today’s numbers

Consumers were needs based instead of want based the COL may be such as we could afford to live on the current minimum wage dictated by a bunch of assholes who wouldn’t know a thing about making-ends-meet and take home Millions in bonus while the rest of us dare to expect a .25 raise

We would go back in time before labor unions and work 12,14 hr. shifts in a warehouse or factory with no heat or broken down equipment, no OSHA, get paid in script, get credit at the company store and have them take it out of your pay at the end of the week, pay the doctor on-time or in trade …every-freaking-thing would be hunky dory now wouldn’t it.

What’s really happening:
Since corporations are holding US jobs hostage (not hiring until they get it) for a tax break and since the “United States NOW has one of the highest effective rates among the leading national economies — at 39.2 percent soon, we will be No. 1, ahead of Japan who is moving to reduce theirs . Since 1990,”every other country in the developed world reduced its corporate tax rate— except for the U.S., which actually increased its tax rate.”

I say let’s give it to them so we can get our freaking jobs back, but only jobs that a Mexican won’t do for less yeah? If you think this is not what is happening you’re drinking too much Kool-Aid, and please this is not Obama’s fault. It’s similar to the corruption in the park county government…it started long before the current elected official took office.

Oh…one more thing these same countries that have reduced their corporate tax rate were higher than the U.S. [from 2.3% more in Canada to 13.8% more in Sweden] to start with, AND they have SOCIALIZED medicine, not that I care really I just want MY health care.

But a little more on corporate tax rates and their inability to hire more unemployed people:
• 70% of Corporate tax is paid by the workers and in turn, obviously, 100% of the tax rate is passed on to consumers.
• Foreign employment by American companies increased by 3.8 million from 1997 to 2007

Bottom line; pay more attention to the issues and their complexities and pick your politicians accordingly.

BTW…I am for the person I feel is the best [most honest] candidate whichever party they come from.

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