Iran Placing Missiles in Venezuela; Can Reach the USA

10 Dec 2010 16:39 #21 by JusSayin

Scruffy wrote: Well, it's better than being called a chest-thumping, ignorant, patriotic douchebag bigot.


Or a "ZERO G JUGGS reader"!!!*

*Giving you credit for not just looking at the pictures.

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10 Dec 2010 16:42 #22 by Scruffy

JusSayin wrote:

Scruffy wrote: Well, it's better than being called a chest-thumping, ignorant, patriotic douchebag bigot.


Or a "ZERO G JUGGS reader"!!!*

*Giving you credit for not just looking at the pictures.


I gave up my bad habits weeks ago.

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10 Dec 2010 16:43 #23 by Scruffy

Nmysys wrote: So AV's Idiot Twin, do you advocate just letting these fools go ahead and destroy us???

We were friends for a short time, but a long time ago, apparently back before you were born, but then they kept our Embassy and staff hostage for almost a year and a half. Then we got the Ayotollahs and NOW Ahmadinejad. What do you oh intelligent one, suggest that we do??? Please tell us stupid masses of ignorant conservative types. Do we now have to suffer debasement and defilement and all types of plagues?

Please help us!!!! Please!!!!!!


You're the elitist that knows all the answers. Why don't you tell us what we should do?

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10 Dec 2010 17:18 #24 by V_A

Scruffy wrote:

Nmysys wrote: So AV's Idiot Twin, do you advocate just letting these fools go ahead and destroy us???

We were friends for a short time, but a long time ago, apparently back before you were born, but then they kept our Embassy and staff hostage for almost a year and a half. Then we got the Ayotollahs and NOW Ahmadinejad. What do you oh intelligent one, suggest that we do??? Please tell us stupid masses of ignorant conservative types. Do we now have to suffer debasement and defilement and all types of plagues?

Please help us!!!! Please!!!!!!


You're the elitist that knows all the answers. Why don't you tell us what we should do?


If you disagree with me, you don't need to resort to name calling to try and make yourself superior to me. If it helps your state of mind I will virtually bow down before your superiority. Now can we discuss the issue at hand like adults?

I was alive then and my memory hasn't faded to the point I forgot the Iran Crisis, the failed rescue etc.

My plan for our country? Quit being the selective policeman of the world and only engaging in wars or battles that fulfill the pockets of political supporters. For example, Darfur. The people behind Bush & Obama don't see a profit in this country so we allow the war to continue. This same groups foresees potential in Iraq so we invented WMD's and off to war we went. We bought billions in war supplies and could get our hands on some oil.

I don't think the masses are stupid, I think many people are lazy and believe what is being spoon fed to them by the propaganda machines. This happens on both sides of the fence. FYI, I spent most of my life supporting the conservative party and many of personal ideals follow along traditional conservative lines. In the last few years I have become sick and tired of the US foreign policy. It is a policy based upon greed, that is making a small group super rich on the backs of the citizens (debt).

Frankly, the US should do what most other countries do, pay our fees & send troops to support the corrupt UN. It is not our job to police the world. That is the UN's job.

If you don't want Iran's missiles pointed at the US, are you willing for the US missiles pointed at Iran to be removed? Doubtful, that would be un-American to not want our cake & to eat it.

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10 Dec 2010 19:59 #25 by Nmysys

We bought billions in war supplies and could get our hands on some oil.


Where pray tell is all that oil we supposedly went to war for?

Did not the same U.N. steal that oil in the Oil for food program?

So that corrupt U.N. is what we should further fund and trust to police the world instead of being the superpower we are? And what about our enemies? Will they just stop hating us and wanting to destroy us because we take that new approach?

Until those two statements, I was actually beginning to formulate an apology to you, but definitely not now.

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11 Dec 2010 05:48 #26 by Batifa Zaxo
mr.avsgoodtwin, thank you for standing up against americans who hate islam. stupid republicans who think islam will shoot missles to america. you will destroy your own country from within. mr.avsgoodtwin is good, he thinks iran is good country and productive. thank your mravesgoodtwin.

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11 Dec 2010 09:19 #27 by V_A
Actual Batifa Zaxo, I never said Iran is good.

Basic principles in life are cause and reaction. Our foreign policy has been a train wreck for a long time (cause) the reaction by many groups or countries is the reaction. I'm sorry this is a difficult concept for so many to understand.

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11 Dec 2010 11:01 #28 by JusSayin

AVs Good Twin wrote: Actual Batifa Zaxo, I never said Iran is good.

Basic principles in life are cause and reaction. Our foreign policy has been a train wreck for a long time (cause) the reaction by many groups or countries is the reaction. I'm sorry this is a difficult concept for so many to understand.


Except, you assume there was no cause for the U.S. reaction. Kind of a chicken and egg thing. You'll need to go quite a ways back and lay out all the moves by both sides before you can accuse one side of being the 'bad guys'.

Jus curious too...if one of your family members--in your opinion--steps out of line, do you so vociferously deny and bash them the way you do your country?

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11 Dec 2010 13:14 #29 by JSG

Nmysys wrote:

We bought billions in war supplies and could get our hands on some oil.


Where pray tell is all that oil we supposedly went to war for?


Here are a couple of articles I found doing a Bing search.....

Occidental, partners hike Iraq oil output

Dec 6 (Reuters) - Occidental Petroleum (OXY.N) said its consortium in Iraq had increased production at the Zubair field near Basra by 10 percent to more than 200,000 barrels per day.

Occidental and its partners signed an agreement with Iraq in late January to redevelop the Zubair field. Output at the field was about 183,000 bpd when the group began work in the first quarter.

Occidental owns a 23.44 percent stake in the consortium, while Eni holds 32.81 percent and KOGAS 18.75 percent. Missan Oil Company owns 25 percent and is the partner with Iraq's South Oil Company.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0619767020101206


Oil Interests and the US Invasion of Iraq

Abstract:

The US invasion of Iraq on March 19, 2003 was neither to disarm Iraq of its alleged weapons of mass destruction nor for Iraq’s alleged links with Al-Qaeda. Both of these allegations were demonstrated to be untrue by the US bipartisan 9/11 Commission that investigated the causes of the September 11 attacks.

In this paper, I argue that the US power elite, who control US foreign policy, had their own hidden agenda for launching the war on Iraq, other than the two false allegations. While it can be argued, for example, that US militarism played major roles in the war decision making, I argue in this paper that oil played a decisive role as a major objective of the war on Iraq and the occupation of that country afterwards.

More precisely, I argue that oil interests have influenced the Bush administration to invade Iraq using any excuse it can. However, the real reason was that the Iraqi Arab nationalist and socialist government made Iraqi oil resources out of reach for US and British oil companies.

Thus, by invading Iraq the Bush administration has completed a scheme, adopted by the power elite representing the US oil industry, of controlling most of the world oil reserves, as seen by the US military presence in the Arabian Peninsula and Central Asia where most of the world oil reserves are found. This has tremendous implications for the US oil industry, which filled the coffers of the power elite with unprecedented wealth.

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_a ... index.html

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12 Dec 2010 10:23 #30 by Pony Soldier
People thought that the American citizens were going to be the beneficiaries of the Iraqi oil. Fools.

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