What if there is no God?

Wayne:

You have proven to everyone on this forum that you are the Jerk of the corridor. You have not defended anything you have ever done, and I have asked you repeatedly about your changing your persona every week trying to make us think you were not the flaming liberal. You have refused to respond and continually post your nonsense. What you are aghast at is that this particular person of Jewish heritage and faith won't accept your garbage and stands up to you. I have pointed out that you aren't man enough to look me in the face or anyone else who sees right through you, at the VFW breakfast, You are a worm, an ant, to use the reference made previously and one to be stepped on. Yes, I am Jewish, but unlike what you think, I am not one that you or anyone else can or will push around. Don't question my faith Wayne, question whether or not you are man enough to stand up for what you believe in, because I am.

If you can't stand the heat, A--ho-- get out of the kitchen!!!

Actually, I DID respond about my changing persona several times.

The first time, I told you I only do it because it seems to irritate you so much.

The last time you asked about my political background, I responded as well, so don't go saying I refuse to respond:

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Your responses are usually to call the other posters you disagree with names and ignore the discussion. I chose to answer with actual responses.

Well, thanks for the link to the previous response that seems pretty canned to me. I don't vote a straight ticket at all, never have never will, and you know it Wayne since you know that I was part of the group that backed and presented Tancredo to the community. Yes, you piss me off and you know it well. To me, yes, this is my opinion, you are the most irritating person there is here on this forum. You had a screenname of your full name and then when someone called you by name you went whining and crying to the owner of the site to try to get that person, me, banned from the site, a hold over from you ruling the roost on PC.

I think that if I was crude enough to run a poll as to how big of a jerk you were, you would be amazed at the number of people who would vote against you on here. Want me to? Do you remember the one done by Dummy Up about Spykster?

Now that you have made this last comment about my heritage, you haven't made any friends on here. I have heard all the comments in my life of people saying some of my best friends are Jewish, yeah right!!! Who would actually claim you as a friend? Want to find out?

I have come up with the perfect description for you finally, swarmy!!!!!!!!!! I remember you once writing that a sign of intellect was the ability to spell, either spell my screenname right jerkoff or don't use it again. I am tired of seeing this immature way you do it.

It's convenient, isn't it, that when someone answers you with another viewpoint that you either claim they aren't telling the truth or "it sounds canned"? That way, you don't have to consider what they say. I don't understand why it's so hard to believe. As I mentioned, a large number of Americans don't belong to either political party and vote based on the candidate -- not the party affiliation.

Nmysys wrote: You had a screenname of your full name and then when someone called you by name you went whining and crying to the owner of the site to try to get that person, me, banned from the site, a hold over from you ruling the roost on PC.

I don't know where you got that. I have never tried to get you, or anyone else on here, banned from this site. I believe the site owners can set you straight on that erroneous allegation. I release them from the privacy of my account so they can answer you. My complaint was you always bringing my employment into the discussion, which is a violation of the Terms of Service. It would be like me responding to all your posts with statements that you say that because you aren't really an honest [job title here] and probably short everyone you do business with. I bet you'd scream too, if someone were to say that in response to your posts in the forum.

And I'll certainly be happy to look you in the eye at this weekend's VFW breakfast, just like I always do when I see you there, and say hello, just like I always do. You always greet me with a smile and don't appear anything like your online persona.

Still, I have to say you are the first Jewish person I've ever met with such as temper as to continually call people derogatory names. All the Jewish people I've ever met are very respectful to others, even when they disagree. I have a Jewish friend at work who, when people start talking office politics -- as people are apt to do -- he walks away and refuses to participate. He doesn't call everyone names. He just moves on to more useful activities and doesn't associate himself with office gossip.

He follows the 13 Articles of Faith, although when I told him I could never be Jewish because I like shrimp, he confessed that he eats shrimp too. We laughed about it.

And yes, I do have Jewish friends -- one of whom became a Texas State Legislator and ended up marrying a woman who became the Mayor of Dallas. My daughter and I visited them at the official Mayor's residence (in the same neighborhood that George Bush lives in now) and we looked through his album of childhood photos where we used to play together, have a lemonade stand together and climb trees. His mother, who I always admired, was still alive and living with them and told me some stories of my childhood that I had forgotten or didn't know. I learned a lot from here as a kid.

As usual, you've responded once again with "I don't believe you" when I mentioned having Jewish friends and took it a step further to say you doubt I even have friends. Nice going.

Employment is off limits. Period. Anybody who brings it up is, by far, the lowest denominator on this forum. Swarmy doesn't post as a representative of the company where he works.

Just a reminder, personal info is pulled including where someone works.

Swarmy wrote: Under your Christian faith, he's not going to Heaven because he doesn't accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, right? But then, neither will I, according to your Christian faith. I guess it will be him and me debating for all eternity, if there is an eternity. Maybe we'll be on HellBound.com. Meanwhile, it will be you up there in heaven waking those gold-paved streets, drinking milk and honey.

I'm a Roman Catholic, and under my Christian faith Nmysys, you, agnostics, atheists and even those who commit suicide; none are forever barred from rejoining the Father for eternity. Christ said that no one gets to the Father except through Him. The Catholic church has a liberal, or broad, view of what that means and what it was that He said.

There are many paths back to the Creator for his children to choose to follow. For some that path is one of the many forms of Christianity, for others it is Judaism, or Islam; for others the path to be found lies along the one traveled by Buddha, or Druidism, agnosticism, wiccan.......none are excluded who have lived their lives according to the principles of love that at its core is the love that God has for all of his children and was the basis for all that the Son did while He walked among us.

My faith teaches me that all of you, every single one that has lived, is now living, or will ever live, are as much a child of God as I myself am. Judge not lest ye be judged, right? That doesn't mean that I shouldn't judge the character of the person, or the actions that they choose. It means that only He can judge the soul of the individual; only He determines who shall join Him and who shall forever remain separated from Him. That is not mine, yours or anyone else's to decide, it is His decision alone, his judgment only that matters. In his final moment of life, Hitler may have asked for His forgiveness for what he had done, and then even one such as this might be found amongst those that forever rest in the peace of His presence. We do not know, and cannot judge, the soul of the person. That is God's right, and His alone, and only His judgment is final.

This is my faith, my belief, taught to me from the time I first have memory. I have heard other thoughts from other people over the years, but this is what remains, what has survived in the crucible of truth when all that is false has been burned away and lies in ashes. It is beyond my comprehension how His love could be so vast, but it is only because of the limits of my human mind, my human condition, that it lies beyond my grasp.

His love excludes none who hold His love in their soul. This is all that remains within the crucible.

Very well spoken, as always PrintSmith. And I like the idea of a Purgatory -- neither in Heaven or in Hell, but a place to fix yourself. Although I don't like the idea of Hitler in Heaven.

PrintSmith, I'm going to Rome in March to visit my daughter. She told me about the Papal Blessing* at the Vatican and how some of her Catholic friends back home had asked her to send them religious objects held up that are blessed by the Pope. I'd be happy to take something for you or buy a Crucifix to be blessed, but I'm guessing you've probably already done that yourself.

*I think that's what it's called. It's where people in the audience hold up things as the Pope bestows a blessing on the crowd.

It's more of a time out than anything else. A time to stand in the corner and think about why you are there.

I went to Catholic School, but only in the First and Second grade, and took Catechism. I guess I remembered it incorrectly. I thought it was for people who weren't bad or good and another chance to be good. Perhaps the Sisters explained it to us too simply as little kids.