I remember when they outlawed ozone depleteing freon for vehicles air conditioning systems. A car geek I know told me was was releasing some of his leftover freon into the atmoshpere in protest, and that he even started burning his old tires now.
towermonkey wrote: WOW - He was stupid. That stuff is worth a small fortune now.
I might start selling black market incandesant bulbs at Tea Bag rallies soon...
ME:"Psssst, hey Nymisis........... $25 for a hundred watter. These are the real deal man, 100% incandesant and officially banned by Obama now" NYMISIS:"I'll take me four"... ME:"that'll be a hundred bucks, and be sure to tell all your friends because the prices are going up tommarow" NYMISIS:"They are! In that case I'll take 8 more" ME:"You got it, that'll be an even $600 then, thanks." NYMISIS: "600? Sounds good to me, thanks"
VL,
You don't have a problem with the goverment telling you which bulbs you can or can't buy? Especially when a incandescent works better in certain places than the CFL and is safer to dispose of into the enviroment?
I won't replace a working incandescent with a CFL and I still prefer the old school quick starting light bulbs in certain locations.
But I suppose in your mind if Congress passes a bill restricting your freedom, you will sign on to it, no matter what.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
SS109 wrote: VL,
You don't have a problem with the goverment telling you which bulbs you can or can't buy?
Not too much..But I really don't think it's about freedom as much as it is about progress. After we discovered electricity i'm sure there were some hold outs using oil lamps for 25 years until someone dragged them kicking and screaming into the 20th century, and I don't feel that my freedoms are threatened by the government regulating out some energy ineffeciancies in the light bulb business. After thinking about it a little more I could change my stance on this, but I doubt it
You know, I think we may have two incandescent bulbs in our house - amost all are CFLs. I like them better in terms of lighting and value. The mercury content is a concern. We dispose of ours in hazardous waste as indicated, but who knows 20 yrs. down the road.
But I do have an issue with the gov't banning incandescent bulbs. Just seems like overreach to me. I do think that there has to be some regulation of industry (finance leaps to mind!) or the robber barons will take all of us peons to the cleaners. But light bulbs????!!!!! WTF???!!!
cydl wrote: You know, I think we may have two incandescent bulbs in our house - amost all are CFLs. I like them better in terms of lighting and value. The mercury content is a concern. We dispose of ours in hazardous waste as indicated, but who knows 20 yrs. down the road.
But I do have an issue with the gov't banning incandescent bulbs. Just seems like overreach to me. I do think that there has to be some regulation of industry (finance leaps to mind!) or the robber barons will take all of us peons to the cleaners. But light bulbs????!!!!! WTF???!!!
I think the mercury content is a 1000 times less than whats in a thermometer #1, and #2) You could be right on #2. But it might take 20 years for "some Americans" to wise up and start buying the more effeciant bulbs on thier own..This hastens the changeover, saves energy and it will be a complete non issue in a year or two.