Convert to Islam

outdoor338 wrote: Photo, facts please..your argument has no facts..only an opinion from someone just blowing hot air. Christian illegals..now that's funny!

So you are denying that those invloved in drug cartels are Christian? There are some brutal killings there no? Go do some reading up on "La Familia", a faith based cartel. These people carry a Bible in the right hand and a gun in the left hand.

Studying the saints that narcos pray to. http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Studying-the-saints-that-narcos-pray-to-885365.php

No single religion, culture, race or caste of people holds the market on killing. We can deflect all we want and say "Oh that is ancient history" or " they are not true (insert a group here)" or "We don't follow the Old testament anymore".

Some more deflection for you...

Christians who support or remain silent about the "war against terrorism" are terribly inconsistent. If the state were to say: "Here Christian, put on this uniform, take this gun, go to your hometown, and kill your father," Christians would recoil in horror and refuse to obey the state. But if the state were to say: "Here Christian, put on this uniform, take this gun, go to Iraq, and kill someone else's father," I am afraid that many Christians would reply, "When does my plane leave?"

What is a Christian (or anyone) going to do when he faces God at the Judgment and has to give an account of his actions? Suppose he is asked a simple question: "Why did you kill those people defending their homes in Iraq?" And suppose he replied: "Because the U.S. government told me to." What do you suppose would be the Lord's reaction to such a reply? But what else could a man say? He could not say that the United States was under attack. He could not say that Iraq was a threat to the United States. He could not say that he was protecting his family. He could not say that he was protecting his property. He could not even legitimately say that he was protecting himself, since he was in fact a trespasser on someone else's property intending to do the owner great bodily harm.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance25.html

photo, do you know what a real Christian is??? I want you to tell me in detail. I know no Christian who would support any such behavior. Just because you say that you are faith based..does not make you so! So, you are telling me that you know for a fact that Christians killed people in Iraq? Name and article please..your argument has so many holes in it, no facts, strictly your opinion. So you have made it clear your against war, fine. That's your opinion, you're free to have it. I disagree with it..

As far as facing God, that's between them and God not you, me or anyone for that matter!

Oh, I agree that the terrorists have changed this country.

As far as facing God, that's between them and God not you, me or anyone for that matter!

Exactly. That was my point with the Muslim bashing stuff.

CinnamonGirl wrote:

As far as facing God, that's between them and God not you, me or anyone for that matter!

Exactly. That was my point with the Muslim bashing stuff.

And as soon as Muslims adopt this same idea, the bashing will slow down. The main problem I see with Islam (as well as other fundamentalist religions) is that it refuses to accept the existance of other religions and a person's right to choose.

:Exactly:

No offense but that kind of hard line thinking is a problem on both sides.

And as soon as Muslims adopt this same idea,

When they burn the american flag and kill 3000 innocent people they are doing it because they believe all US citizens are evil. You are doing the exact same thing

And we haven't even talked about Timothy McVeigh yet.

Nobody that matters wrote: And as soon as Muslims adopt this same idea, the bashing will slow down.

When did we start using what muslims do as a justification for what we, as Americans, do? I thought we were better than that.

so your ok with muslims buring the american flag, and flying planes into buildings killing 3000 americans, because we are evil???..hmmm, and on our soil. Your kidding, right?

CG, please name one american who strapped C-4 explosives and went into a town square in any muslim county and blew himself up killing 1,000's..

archer..well liberals sure better listen to what you say, what you libs are doing by fleebagging in Wisconsin is wrong..take off so they don't have to vote..sounds like justification to me...

Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was a former member of the U.S. Army who became infamous for detonating a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. Commonly referred to as the Oklahoma City Bombing, the attack killed 168 people, injured 450, and was the deadliest act of terrorism within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.[3] McVeigh, a militia movement sympathizer, sought revenge against the federal government for its handling of the Waco Siege, which had ended in the deaths of 76 people exactly two years earlier. He also hoped to inspire a revolt against what he considered to be a tyrannical federal government. He was convicted of 11 federal offenses and sentenced to death. His execution took place on June 11, 2001 at the Federal Correctional Complex, Terre Haute. Terry Nichols and Michael Fortier were also convicted as conspirators in the plot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh