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States Looking to Change Definition of Late-Term Abortion
26 Mar 2011 08:58 #13
by ScienceChic
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
Replied by ScienceChic on topic States Looking to Change Definition of Late-Term Abortion
Here's a question I've been meaning to ask since CriticalBill brought it up in another thread: why is it that there is so much lament over the loss of a fetus versus lament over the loss of all the potential babies that will never be because of birth control preventing ovulation? A loss of potential life is a loss of potential life, whether it occurs before conception or after, yet we don't hear protests against the availability of birth control, or people decrying "family planning" for young married couples.
Again, I'm not saying that I advocate abortion as birth control, because I don't, I'd just like to understand why there's such an emotional difference for people between these two similar situations. To me, there are an infinite number of human people that can be formed from all the egg and sperm combinations of all the people who are alive, but obviously 99.9% will never be because we aren't giving birth to every egg we are born with and most sperm goes to waste. Why don't we think of all those that will never be and mourn?
I almost wasn't born either, not because of an abortion, but because my mom and dad weren't ready for kids yet and her doctor high-handedly decided for her it was time and refused to prescribe her birth control any longer (they'd been married a grand total of 2 years and were 24 and 21 - not that far out of childhood themselves and not established in careers yet). This thought causes me absolutely no angst, because if I wasn't born, I wouldn't exist to care and be upset about it. My kids wouldn't exist either,but my mom would've eventually had a different kid with a later egg, and that kid would've likely had kids - but now they will never be. And maybe that line of humans would've been better than me, maybe worse, maybe accomplished more for humanity, maybe turned into the worst mass serial murderers, who knows? It's all random chance and to get so emotional about it boggles my mind. Anyone have a good explanation, other than I'm just too rational and logical?
RT - you know nothing of CG's life and her relationship with her mother, so bug off.
Again, I'm not saying that I advocate abortion as birth control, because I don't, I'd just like to understand why there's such an emotional difference for people between these two similar situations. To me, there are an infinite number of human people that can be formed from all the egg and sperm combinations of all the people who are alive, but obviously 99.9% will never be because we aren't giving birth to every egg we are born with and most sperm goes to waste. Why don't we think of all those that will never be and mourn?
I almost wasn't born either, not because of an abortion, but because my mom and dad weren't ready for kids yet and her doctor high-handedly decided for her it was time and refused to prescribe her birth control any longer (they'd been married a grand total of 2 years and were 24 and 21 - not that far out of childhood themselves and not established in careers yet). This thought causes me absolutely no angst, because if I wasn't born, I wouldn't exist to care and be upset about it. My kids wouldn't exist either,but my mom would've eventually had a different kid with a later egg, and that kid would've likely had kids - but now they will never be. And maybe that line of humans would've been better than me, maybe worse, maybe accomplished more for humanity, maybe turned into the worst mass serial murderers, who knows? It's all random chance and to get so emotional about it boggles my mind. Anyone have a good explanation, other than I'm just too rational and logical?
RT - you know nothing of CG's life and her relationship with her mother, so bug off.
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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26 Mar 2011 09:12 - 26 Mar 2011 09:22 #14
by Residenttroll returns
I guess much of the lament over abortion vs. birth control because there are birth control methods - anywhere from a daily pill, a fifty cent condom, or hey -- try this one - abstaining (it's really cheap). So on a social level, the consequences of irresponsibility by two individuals is rectified by the killing a baby.
Libtards educate young minds to do what feels good....but at the end of the day...what feels good has consequences. The American public has been sexualized via schools and media - it's another control mechanism of liberals - I might even suggest communist.
Destroy their religious beliefs, destroy the concept of strong families, destroy the concept of man and woman marriage, destroy morals, destroy the truths...and you now have control.
As a scientist, you know that there is a big difference between a baby and a unfertilized egg - not sure why you would even ask the question.
Sounds like your parents doctor made the right decision.
Replied by Residenttroll returns on topic States Looking to Change Definition of Late-Term Abortion
Science Chic wrote: Here's a question I've been meaning to ask since CriticalBill brought it up in another thread: why is it that there is so much lament over the loss of a fetus versus lament over the loss of all the potential babies that will never be because of birth control preventing ovulation? A loss of potential life is a loss of potential life, whether it occurs before conception or after, yet we don't hear protests against the availability of birth control, or people decrying "family planning" for young married couples.
Again, I'm not saying that I advocate abortion as birth control, because I don't, I'd just like to understand why there's such an emotional difference for people between these two similar situations. To me, there are an infinite number of human people that can be formed from all the egg and sperm combinations of all the people who are alive, but obviously 99.9% will never be because we aren't giving birth to every egg we are born with and most sperm goes to waste. Why don't we think of all those that will never be and mourn?
I almost wasn't born either, not because of an abortion, but because my mom and dad weren't ready for kids yet and her doctor high-handedly decided for her it was time and refused to prescribe her birth control any longer (they'd been married a grand total of 2 years and were 24 and 21 - not that far out of childhood themselves and not established in careers yet). This thought causes me absolutely no angst, because if I wasn't born, I wouldn't exist to care and be upset about it. My kids wouldn't exist either,but my mom would've eventually had a different kid with a later egg, and that kid would've likely had kids - but now they will never be. And maybe that line of humans would've been better than me, maybe worse, maybe accomplished more for humanity, maybe turned into the worst mass serial murderers, who knows? It's all random chance and to get so emotional about it boggles my mind. Anyone have a good explanation, other than I'm just too rational and logical?
RT - you know nothing of CG's life and her relationship with her mother, so bug off.
I guess much of the lament over abortion vs. birth control because there are birth control methods - anywhere from a daily pill, a fifty cent condom, or hey -- try this one - abstaining (it's really cheap). So on a social level, the consequences of irresponsibility by two individuals is rectified by the killing a baby.
Libtards educate young minds to do what feels good....but at the end of the day...what feels good has consequences. The American public has been sexualized via schools and media - it's another control mechanism of liberals - I might even suggest communist.
Destroy their religious beliefs, destroy the concept of strong families, destroy the concept of man and woman marriage, destroy morals, destroy the truths...and you now have control.
As a scientist, you know that there is a big difference between a baby and a unfertilized egg - not sure why you would even ask the question.
Sounds like your parents doctor made the right decision.
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