Hey pro-abortion rights friends, why is it OK for the government to mandate that a person buying food receive extensive information about ingredients and calories, but not OK for the government to mandate that a woman seeking an abortion receive information about fetal development? Is what we choose to consume more the government's business, than a life we choose to terminate? Why?
Science Chic wrote: Here's a question I've been meaning to ask since CriticalBill brought it up in another thread: why is it that there is so much lament over the loss of a fetus versus lament over the loss of all the potential babies that will never be because of birth control preventing ovulation? A loss of potential life is a loss of potential life, whether it occurs before conception or after, yet we don't hear protests against the availability of birth control, or people decrying "family planning" for young married couples.
As a scientist you know that once conception has occurred it is no longer a potential life, instead it is a human life that exists. Once conception has occurred the newly created life begins living. It begins self determinate behavior at that point in time. Oh, it may yet fail to find a hospitable environment in which it may continue to live, but by any biological definition of life once conception has passed it is no longer potential life, but human life that truly exists.
Now you may believe that that human life represents a potential human being if it is allowed to continue to live and develop, but there is no scientific based argument that has any merit which relegates the embryo, zygote, fetus or any other term referencing the life to the status of being only a potential life SC. It is alive, it is living, it is an actual human life, not a potential one.
Nmysys wrote: Hey pro-abortion rights friends, why is it OK for the government to mandate that a person buying food receive extensive information about ingredients and calories, but not OK for the government to mandate that a woman seeking an abortion receive information about fetal development? Is what we choose to consume more the government's business, than a life we choose to terminate? Why?
Are you really arguing for more government intervention in our lives......it's getting hard to keep track of what you think are good government mandates and what are bad.....well, no it isn't....if the government mandates what you want it's good, if it mandates what you don't want it's bad.
Personally I just want government to butt out of our personal lives altogether....that goes for the food police....the seat belt police...the cigarette police....and any other "we're going to make you better" police that they think of. I wear my seat belt, eat healthy and don't smoke....all without the governments help....if other's choose a different lifestyle, that is their choice.
Science Chic wrote: Here's a question I've been meaning to ask since CriticalBill brought it up in another thread. To me, there are an infinite number of human people that can be formed from all the egg and sperm combinations of all the people who are alive, but obviously 99.9% will never be because we aren't giving birth to every egg we are born with and most sperm goes to waste. Why don't we think of all those that will never be and mourn?
Let me give you a tree hugger analogy (and I do like trees). Lets say you have a nice piece of land that has quite a few trees but you want a few more. Now in your backyard there are pinecones everywhere all full of seeds, most of which will end up decomposing into the soil without growing a new tree. So you decide to harvest 3 nice seeds and plant them. A year later you see 3 nice new seedlings sprouted and that summer they grow to a foot tall. Then one night a couple little bastards walk across your property and rip out every one and in the morning they lay dead on the ground.
Two questions (and really think about them and answer honestly):
#1 As a nature lover you would obviously be upset about the death of those seedlings or baby trees right? Would you be as upset about a relative who had a 3rd abortion? Would you think of and morn the loss of a new relative you would never meet?
#2 Would you morn all the other seeds that have a potential for trees but are never planted? Obviously not.
I know people who would come unglued if trees were killed but would quickly forget about a relatives abortion and would not even be the least bit sad unless the relative was injured in the process. You see, since they never really saw the life with their own eyes, it didn't really exist to them. Now if there was a window into the womb (like CG said in another thread) it would be a much different story I believe.
The same would hold true for the seeds....if they never surfaced, the gardener would not be as upset if the soil was torn up since he never got to "see the life". I just believe that human life is special no matter what age or if I can see it or not. JMO.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
Odd antecdote, but when I was pregnant with my eldest, my ex's bosses youngest daughter - 3 at the time - was convinced that I had a window in my belly and was pissed as hell that I wouldn't pull up my dress and show her the baby. Even when I introduced her to the baby at the picnic months later, she still gave me dirty looks.
Local_Historian wrote: Odd antecdote, but when I was pregnant with my eldest, my ex's bosses youngest daughter - 3 at the time - was convinced that I had a window in my belly and was pissed as hell that I wouldn't pull up my dress and show her the baby. Even when I introduced her to the baby at the picnic months later, she still gave me dirty looks.
LOL...gotta love the way kids think, great story.
The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.
Off topic (kind of)...
Some have heard this from me before…
I think we need to change the words we use in this and another discussion...
Late term abortion (Any abortion, which I DO NOT AGREE as a form of birth control) should be called what it is killing of an innocent.
The DEATH PENLTY should be renamed as REALLY LATE ABORTION, or for those other loons, POPULATION CONTROL.
BTW, 3 appeals and you’re out! PERIOD!
Look all the money we would save. Or put toward research toward saving both the child & the mother, cutting the debt, TEACHING KIDS the pros & cons of their choice to decide to or not, (their parents sure as hell, aren’t!), think of this way lefties more cash for social programs, should love that thought (don’t get all excited… just saying, that’s how we should sell it, and the lefties will jump on the band wagon.
