Conifer Park & Recreation District---What's The Story?

10 Apr 2011 20:55 #1 by CinnamonGirl
CONIFER PARK & RECREATION DISTRICT---WHAT'S THE STORY?
On Tuesday, May 3, 20ll, a polling place election will be held at West Jefferson Elementary School to form a recreation district. This will be the fifth effort. The district would cover l02 square miles along the 285 Corridor. The district would have the power to hold an election in any year to raise property taxes. The organizers maintain this will be a "No Tax" district.

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11 Apr 2011 10:07 #2 by Grady
It's another attempt by a profit motivated group to establish a government entity with powers of eminent domain and to ask for new taxes, all for the benefit of a few. Like the undead, they just keep coming and coming, we need to keep killing this Zombie until they give up.

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18 Apr 2011 10:42 #3 by BearMtnHIB
I started to get together some information on the Evergreen Park and Recreation District to give people an idea of where your new Conifer Recreation district is going to want to take you. As many of you may know, I grew up in Evergreen and have watched this special district from the time it was a little sprout.

The Evergreen Park and Recreation district started with one stated purpose- to provide the “kids” in Evergreen with a swimming pool.

That “mission” has grown in intent far beyond what most of us in Evergreen ever envisioned. At the bottom of this post are projects that are currently “proposed” by the district so you can see that they have no intent to stop expanding the district- collecting more taxes- and doing what government does best- grow, grow, and grow some more.

The current mill levy for the Evergreen Park and Rec District is 6.9980 (2010). Just so you get an idea, we pay about 3.2 mills for Law Enforcement- so the Recreation district here costs us more than twice what we pay for Law Enforcement.

For me- this amounts to about $360.00/Year.

I’m too busy working to pay the taxes I’m forced into- to actually use any of the facilities- but I hear that the new Recreation Center in Hiwan is way cool. It’s our newest multi-million dollar facility.

Now you all may know that much of the money today is going to provide facilities and Concrete jogging trails in North Evergreen- in the Hiwan and Bergen Park area. That’s just so wonderful for the beautiful people who live up there- but in South Evergreen many of our roads are not even paved yet. I also have a problem with using our money to pave jogging trails the same way they do downtown Denver- it is out of character with our mountain community.

The formation of a new taxing authority is all they need to get started on the same road in Conifer. There’s only one reason to form a special tax district- and that is to tax. If you believe that this Rec District has no intention to tax you- you are woefully misinformed.

Evergreen’s district started out with the purpose of providing (1) one swimming pool.

Here is a breakdown of the facilities we NOW have in the district- and at the bottom are the projects they are currently proposing- and who the hell knows what they will be proposing tomorrow- but everyone would have to agree that this goes so far beyond (1) one swimming pool and the Conifer Recreation District will do the same.

In 30 years- we have gone from “one swimming pool” to this…..

Buchanan Park Recreation Center is a multi multi million dollar 33,000-square-foot building on 17 acres and includes:

> Climbing
The 41-foot rock-like freestanding pinnacle is located in the rotunda of the building. Sculptured and custom holds are embedded throughout the wall, and an overhang will challenge even the advanced climber. For updated climbing pricing and information please use the link to the right of the page.

> Aquatics
The "leisure" pool has a large and small slide, water fountains, two lap lanes, one of which is always available for lap swimming, a hot tub, a dry sauna, and the latest in water fitness, a "current" channel (vortex) where you exercise with and against the current. Our pool temperature averages 86-88 degrees and starts at a zero depth, perfect for the little ones, with the deepest area at 4 feet 6 inches. A private room and shared patio is available for private parties. If your child is 5 or under, a paid swimming adult (16 or older) must be in the pool with your child at all times. A child may not be left unattended in the pool area until their 8th birthday

Cardio / Weight / Fitness Area
Approximately 3,200 square feet, this area is filled with 24 pieces of cardio equipment including seven cross-trainers, three upright bikes, three recumbent bikes, seven treadmills, one ARC, two step mills and one Concept II rower. Mirrored walls and big windows surround the free weight area, plus a 16-piece Strive & Magnum circuit outlines the base of the climbing pinnacle. For updated Personal Weight Training pricing and information please use the link to the right of the page.

> Room Rentals
We have several areas available for rent. Let us help plan swimming and climbing parties, receptions, meetings or fund raisers. Non-Profits with a 501 (C)3 will receive a 50% price deduction.

Buchanan Park property includes: 2 multipurpose fields, playground, and the Buchanan ponds (fee required).

Wulf Recreation Center has a 45,000 square foot building on 6.2 acres and includes:
• 25-Yard six-lane pool
• Gymnastics gym
• Basketball/volleyball gym
• Weight/fitness facility
• 1 Handball/racquetball court
• Dance studio
• Playschool room
• 3 Meeting/class rooms

Wulf Recreation Center property includes:
• 4 Tennis courts
• 2 Sand volleyball courts
• 2 Playgrounds
• Skate park
• 1/4 Mile asphalt fitness trail

Evergreen Lake House Center is a 5,000-square-foot building on 55 acres and includes:
• Lodgepole pine log building
• Octagon room
• Great Room with large stone fireplace

Evergreen Lake Park includes:
• 40 Acre lake
• 1 Acre park with picnic tables and grills
• Wetlands
• Observation boardwalk
• 1.3 Mile long trail loop
• Paddle boats, canoes, fishing boats (for a fee) ($5/day for private boats starting last year)

Park Operations Building
• Located next to the District's Administrative Office, the building totals about 2,500 square feet, including 1,475 square feet in two vehicle bays and 1,025 square feet of office and storage space. The office space includes two staff offices, a kitchen/break room, two restrooms, and about 500 square feet of storage area.
• The building serves as the District's first vehicle maintenance facility where staff can work on vehicles inside and on a lift. The vehicle area includes a workbench and storage for parts and equipment.


Parkland Owned by the District (65.1 acres)

Buchanan Park Noble Meadow 20 acres playground equipment, 2 trout ponds, 2 ball fields

Buchanan Park Expansion Lutheran & Ogle 12.6 acres undeveloped land

Commodore Heights Mountain Park Home subdivision 3 acres undeveloped land

Graham Park West side of Bergen Valley Elementary 4.47 acres
Multipurpose grass field

Marshdale Park N. Turkey Creek Road 14 acres playground, 2 tennis courts, 2 multipurpose artificial turf fields

Stagecoach Park Stagecoach & Hwy 74 11 acres playground, 1 multipurpose grass field, 1 small ball field

Parkland Owned by Jefferson County Public Schools (7.9 acres in the District)

Ball Fields Owned by the District

Buchanan Park
1 baseball/softball (300 ft) adult softball, youth baseball,

West Jeff Girls Softball, Evergreen youth football, soccer
1 baseball/softball (240 ft)
or 1 baseball/softball (250 ft)
1 football (60 yards)

Graham Park
1 soccer (full size) youth soccer, youth lacrosse, youth football

Marshdale Park
2 synthetic turf soccer/lacrosse/football (full size) youth lacrosse, youth football, EPRD summer sports camps, youth fast-pitch softball/baseball

Stagecoach Park
1 lacrosse youth baseball, youth fast-pitch softball, youth lacrosse, youth soccer, youth football
1 baseball/softball (small)

Ball Fields Owned by Jefferson County Public Schools

Bergen Meadow Elementary
2 granite/sand complex; baseball/softball (250 ft) school sports & P.E., youth soccer, EPRD softball, youth baseball, youth softball

Bergen Valley Elementary
1 soccer (mid size) school P.E., youth soccer, EPRD softball, youth baseball, youth softball
1 baseball/softball (240 ft)

Buffalo Park
1 baseball/softball (275 ft) school sports & P.E., youth soccer, EPRD softball, youth baseball, youth softball, EHS baseball & softball, youth football

Evergreen Middle School
1 soccer (1 full size or 3 sm) youth soccer, EPRD softball, youth baseball, youth softball, youth football, school P.E.
1 baseball/softball (300 ft)
2 soccer practice (large)

Evergreen High School
1 baseball (325 feet) school sports & P.E., youth soccer, youth baseball, youth softball, youth football
1 football (100 yards)
1 soccer (full size)

Marshdale Elementary School
1 granite/sand complex; 2 soccer goals school PE & recess, youth soccer, EPRD softball, youth baseball

Parmalee Elementary School
1 granite/sand infield with dirt outfield school PE & recess, youth baseball, youth soccer

Wilmot Elementary
1 soccer (1 mid or 3 small size) school P.E., youth soccer, EPRD softball, youth baseball, youth softball
2 granite/sand complex;
baseball/softball (210 ft)

Total of existing fields

Baseball/softball
10 250 feet or less
4 275 feet or more

Football/lacrosse
1 60 yards
3 100 yards

Soccer 12 small
6 full

Trails Owned by the District
1 *
Evergreen Lake to Bergen Park and Evergreen Lake Dam to Meadow Drive
2 **
Bergen Park to El Rancho
3 **
Evergreen Lake to Morrison and Evergreen Lake Dam to Episcopal Church
4 **
Evergreen Lake to Conifer & Cub Creek Park to Marshdale
5 **
Evergreen Lake to Conifer Bikeway along Highway 73
6 *
Dedisse to Alderfer Three Sisters
7 **
Evergreen Meadow to Marshdale School
8 **
East Stagecoach Road to Kittredge
9 **
Cub Creek Park to Maxwell Falls
10 **
Elephant Butte Access Loop Trail
11 **
Library to Recreation Center
12 **
Library to Brook Forest Road
13 **
Library to Evergreen Lake Dam
14 *
Meadow Drive to Highway 74
15 *
Bear Creek Trail

The ones with double asterisk are proposed trails.

So this is what you have to look forward to if the Conifer Rec District passes. No taxes? Your pretty funny!

Those taxes will be proposed year after year until the sun shines on their bright idea, even if it has been turned down by the voters 4 times- it only needs to pass once.

Don’t forget to vote against it again this year- the cost of keeping our cost of living as low as possible is eternal vigilance. Folks trying to get by in this bad economy and senior citizens don’t need to be hit with the coming taxes that this new “Special Tax District” will no doubt be proposing as soon as the district is formed.

This is my home- I intend to retire here and my biggest interest here is keeping my taxes and expenses reasonable enough so I can actually afford to live in my home town as I grow old. And if you think your kids really need a swimming pool or another ball park- first consider all of the other activities they could be doing in our awesome area.

If they still need a swimming pool- We have 2 of them just up the road here in Evergreen that 98% of the taxpayers never use- consider using them and all of the other facilities mentioned above since most of us living here in Evergreen do not use them. Oh- don't forget to bring money because almost all of the facilities and services we have in Evergreen involve paying fees to use them - whether or not you live in the district.

Conifer will do the same- collect taxes AND charge fees for everything.

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18 Apr 2011 11:20 #4 by cydl
Well written, HIB. This is yet another scam to get hands into our pockets.

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18 Apr 2011 12:17 #5 by Stymie
HIB, do you know how many times Evergreen came out with a proposed mill levy increase and how many were approved? Just curious as I understand that they pick the group that counts the votes. Given that only 2% of the population uses the facilities I am surprised any increases are approved.

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18 Apr 2011 12:35 - 18 Apr 2011 12:51 #6 by BearMtnHIB
Many of the increases were initiated before TABOR went into affect- and I think a few were also voted in after TABOR- like the new tax proposal for the Stagecoach Ball Fields that passed just a few years ago.

I do not know the exact date in history of every tax increase- although I would be interested in where I might find the Mill Levy increase history. It must have been raised several times to get from "one swimming pool" to where it is today- costing more than twice as much as our Sheriff dept.

The Evergreen Park and Recreation District (originally named the Evergreen Metropolitan Recreation and Park District and renamed in 1992) was authorized in January 1969 by a vote of the residents of the area. The stated purpose of the District was to provide recreational opportunities to its residents and construct a community center with a swimming pool.

Source http://www.evergreenrecreation.com/manage/files/pdfs/master_plan1_251a9.pdf

Special Tax district authorized in 1969.
Voter approved tax increase January 1970
Another Bond tax increase was passed in 1975
Another bond tax increase was passed in 1994
And the one I know just passed a few years ago - maybe 2008

this is not a complete history by any means, just what I have found so far.
Other tax increases must have occured to get the mill levy to 6.997 (2010).


I bet that each time the taxes were raised- they had a good reason to do it. Many of the increases were probably proposed and passed while the economy was in good shape- and people's incomes were rising. Funny thing though- they have not proposed one single TAX DECREASE as long as I can remember!

Yes- the Conifer group has rigged the election as much as they could- No mail ballots will be sent out to the taxpayers unless they specifically request one. The election will be held at only one polling place - and held on an off election year- which historically have low turnout numbers. So it's important that each property owner turn out and vote against this on election day next month.

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18 Apr 2011 13:08 #7 by 2wlady
At least you have a vote. Here in Park County, Park County Little League demands from the BOCC and the Land & Water Trust (set up to fight Aurora and then modified to provide conservation of resources, including WATER), gets more than enough grants from various funds the county controls and hands out to the detriment of other organizations, and will have their ball fields with as much water as they want to clean turf and water dirt. It will be a monitored well with bypass, said bypass being used as much as PCLL wants, IMO, regardless of what PCLL says.

I'm with you all the way on the NO vote.

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19 Apr 2011 14:01 #8 by 2wlady

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20 Apr 2011 12:29 #9 by BearMtnHIB

Here is Clear Creek's Rec District financials:


Looks like money is building up in the fund- someone is going to want to spend it soon!

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20 Apr 2011 16:52 #10 by ScienceChic
YourHub article:

http://denver.yourhub.com/Conifer/Stori ... 73101.aspx
Conifer election on park and rec district set for May 3
by: Karen Groves, YourHub.com
Article Contributed on: 4/19/2011

An election to consider the formation of a Conifer Park and Rec district will be held May 3 at West Jefferson Elementary School, 26501 Barkley Road, Conifer from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.

The vote will determine whether a park and rec district will be formed and, if so, which candidates will serve on its board of directors. Those eligible to vote are registered voters who have lived in the district not less than 30 days, and who pay taxes or own property in the district. Proponents expect funding to come from Jefferson County impact fees and from grants from Great Outdoors Colorado and Jefferson County Open Space.

A map of the proposed district is at [url=http://www.focpr.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;]http://www.focpr.org[/url].


Board candidates
Conifer Park and Recreation District board members chosen from among these candidates on the May 3 ballot will serve only if the district is also approved:

Elect three for four-year term:
Kendra Hood, Bill Turner, Debra Maxwell West

Elect two for two-year term:
Robert Baxter, Ron Lewis, Skip Shirlaw, Alison Thayer

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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