Colorado Natural Gas RECENT Rate Increase

LOL wrote: Propane!

On another site they posted both Bailey and Independent propane are at $3.28 a gallon now.

Guess they watched the nightly news and got scared at what is going on out east.

CNG was late to the party in our neck of the woods since not as many homes in the area, still a lot of raw land. A blessing in disguise based on recent prices. I bet many who changed over wish they hadn't.

I am happy to have made the switch. Not having the 500 gallon bomb in the yard is a plus and not having to keep an eye on the level is great. I appreciate not having to play pricing games with the provider in the summer/fall. If the price gets to high my seven acres of timber will provide a wood burning supply that will surely out live me.

All responses are as expected......thanks. BTW I know folks that burn up to 10 cords of pine (bout all we have here - little high heating value hardwood is available - OK some Aspen...still low heat value) each winter in one stove for a 2000 sq foot home....at $200 a cord .....well you do the math.....plus they have gas or propane to augment. Wood has esoteric value but is not at all efficient.
IF you cut/split/stack your own look at the hours spent and use minimum wage to see what you pay in your time and energy......but the esoterics are worth it to many.

NOT TO CORNFUSE ANYONE>>>>>>:

Approximate Heating Value of Common Fuels
Natural Gas 1,030 Btu/cu ft 100,000 Btu/therm
Propane 2,500 Btu/cu ft 92,500 Btu/gal
Methane 1,000 Btu/cu ft
Landfill gas 500 Btu/cu ft
Butane 3,200 Btu/cu ft 130,000 Btu/gal
Methanol 57,000 Btu/gal
Ethanol 76,000 Btu/gal
Fuel Oil
Kerosene 135,000 Btu/gal
#2 138,500 Btu/gal
#4 145,000 Btu/gal
#6 153,000 Btu/gal
Waste oil 125,000 Btu/gal
Biodiesel – Waste vegetable oil 120,000 Btu/gal
Gasoline 125,000 Btu/gal
Wood
Softwood 2-3,000 lb/cord 10–15,000,000 Btu/cord
Hardwood 4-5,000 lb/cord 18–24,000,000 Btu/cord
Sawdust – green 10-13 lb/cu ft 8-10,000,000 Btu/ton
Sawdust – kiln dry 8-10 lb/cu ft 14-18,000,000 Btu/ton
Chips – 45% moisture 10-30 lb/cu ft 7,600,000 Btu/ton
Hogged 10-30 lb/cu ft 16-20,000,000 Btu/ton
Bark 10-20 lb/cu ft 9-10,500,000 Btu/ton
Wood pellets – 10% moisture 40-50 lb/cu ft 16,000,000 Btu/ton
Hard Coal (anthracite) 13,000 Btu/lb 26,000,000 Btu/ton
Soft Coal (bituminous) 12,000 Btu/lb 24,000,000 Btu/ton
Rubber – pelletized 16,000 Btu/lb 32-34,000,000 Btu/ton
Plastic 18-20,000 Btu/lb
Corn – shelled 7,800-8,500 Btu/lb 15-17,000,000 Btu/ton
cobs 8,000-8,300 Btu/lb 16-17,000,000 Btu/ton
Electricity 3412 Btu/kilowatt hour
Prepared by:
John W. Bartok, Jr., Agricultural Engineer
University of Connecticut, Storrs CT 06269-4087
December 2004

When you cut wood look at the exercise you get and even a plus if you are doing wildfire mitigation at the same time. Maybe wood isn't as efficient but neither are many of the homes that are 2x4 construction and not much insulation. If we were really cost conscious and environmentally concerned more people would have builders face the main rooms south to take advantage of the sun and really reduce costs.

Here's how I view the "efficient" factor....IF propane is not delivered/available for whatever
reason (read catastrophic cause) or gas lines are unable to deliver the fuel because they
are "cut" OR CYBER TERRORISM attacks the computer generated infrastructure......my wood
burning stove will STILL provide me warmth (light also)....it might be sub-par and slightly uncomfortable,BUT it will still sustain my body/soul.....(cook,warmth,firelight).....JMO

And if I am not mistaken some of the natural gas lines have exploded in a fire if they aren't turned off at the house and not everyone is home to do that, so it's not much worse than having a propane tank nearby or a pile of gasoline in the garage to use for a generator or other items.

Woodstove has come in handy many times when electricity is out or it is night or no sunshine to warm the place.

HappyCamper wrote:

LOL wrote: Propane!

On another site they posted both Bailey and Independent propane are at $3.28 a gallon now.

Guess they watched the nightly news and got scared at what is going on out east.

Seriously 3.28/gal? WTF It's never been that high. Anyone confirm this? I'll be calling tomarow.
Thats nuts, it should be around 1.80

At 3.28/gal it would be cheaper to run electric heaters!

LOL wrote:

HappyCamper wrote:

LOL wrote: Propane!

On another site they posted both Bailey and Independent propane are at $3.28 a gallon now.

Guess they watched the nightly news and got scared at what is going on out east.

Seriously 3.28/gal? WTF It's never been that high. Anyone confirm this? I'll be calling tomarow.
Thats nuts, it should be around 1.80

At 3.28/gal it would be cheaper to run electric heaters!

I do not have propane so I did not call but on that website the person said they called and because of the increase they are going to try and stretch what they have in hopes if will drop.

Another person posted that they got 280 gallons from Amerigas and it cost them over $1000.00 for it. Not sure how long 280 gallons would last a household but that is just crazy.

LOL I hope this is just rumor and I am only posting what I read elsewhere.