The birth certificate that is on file in Hawaii

10 Apr 2011 15:33 #121 by major bean

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11 Apr 2011 12:57 #122 by Blazer Bob
The truth was out there and now it's here. This is the original document, now can we all STFU?




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11 Apr 2011 13:01 #123 by LadyJazzer

Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims

The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.

"It’s kind of ludicrous at this point," Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC. No matter what state officials release on the issue, the "birthers" are going to question it, said Fukino. "They’re going to question the ink on which it was written or say it was fabricated," said Fukino. "The whole thing is silly."

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns ... _politics/

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11 Apr 2011 14:11 #124 by pineinthegrass

LadyJazzer wrote:

Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims

The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.

"It’s kind of ludicrous at this point," Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC. No matter what state officials release on the issue, the "birthers" are going to question it, said Fukino. "They’re going to question the ink on which it was written or say it was fabricated," said Fukino. "The whole thing is silly."

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42519951/ns ... _politics/

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Now that is interesting! I was hoping someone would interview Fukino because she had previously said she'd seen the original birth certificate, but the governor can't seem to find it now. I'm glad she made it more clear where she left it. Hopefully it can be found now. I'd at least like to hear the governor make a clear statement that he's seen it.

I agree though, that even if it were produced, the conspiracy nuts still won't be satisfied. Especially since she said part of it is typed, and part is handwritten. I'm guessing new conspiracy theories are being created right now to explain that.

I don't get the part about not allowing any copies of the original. Why's that? And they don't seem to enforce it much either. I've seen several copies of long form birth certificates for people born the same year as Obama.

It's clear to me that Obama has released everything he's required to, and that the short form is a perfectly legal document. I'd still like to see the long form, though, just to put all this nonsense to rest. Then again, it won't put it to rest, but at least we'd get more new material from the conspiracy nuts. The old disproven theories are getting boring to see over and over again. Even Trump is pulling them out.

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