The birth certificate that is on file in Hawaii

Whaddaya think?

This is believed to be birth certificate submitted by Obama's grandmother, Madlyn Dunham and is on file in Hawaii. It shows that Obama was born in Kenya. This is the information that the short form Certification of Live Birth is hiding.
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/MissieBessie/postandmail.jpg?t=1260652452

Haha. Thanks for the laugh.

What do I think? I think you're full of it if you really think that's a birth certificate issued in Hawaii.

4 days old? Hmmmm?

Let's take the liberal tact: prove that it isn't. Until you prove that it is not the birth certificate, then is must be the birth certificate. That logic ought to make all the Obama supporters happy.

Well, the obvious point is there's nothing indicating it's a Hawaii document. Hawaii is not anywhere on it, except in the typed address of the house. There's no Hawaii seal, no indication at the top that it is the Hawaii Health Department and no signature by the Hawaii Clerk and Recorder. Also, it doesn't match Hawaii Birth Certificates issued at the same time.

Wait! I just found the real one!

Yep, 4 days old. Grandma submitted the info 4 days after he was born in Kenya.

The one that I posted is serious. You are obviously trying to be funny. Liberals! Ya gotta love 'em.

Sorry, I thought you put it up as a joke.

The fact that you believe it makes me seriously doubt your intelligence. You try getting a U.S. issued birth certificate for someone born in another country and let me know how that works out for ya.

As I said, states don't issue birth certificates without the name of the state on them, along with a seal and signature of the state official. That's the big giveaway that it's a total fake.

This is what I would call a “birther fantasy” certificate. It encapsulates the mythology of Barack Obama born in Africa, and registered by the statement of his grandmother. This is the kind of certificate that was claimed to be possible in some of the birther lawsuits, such as Keyes v Bowen and birther attorneys like Paul Jensen.

There are a number of obvious problems with the certificate, the most notable of which is the citation of HRS 338 17.8 at the bottom, a law that wasn’t passed until 21 years later. Also the certificate number is missing. The Roman numeral II is next to the first name and not next to the last name where it should be. The Roman numeral II is out of line with the rest of the text. The registration dates of real certificates are rubber stamped, not typed. Obviously the check boxes for Parent and MD have been “whited out” from the original certificate. The race of the father is wrong. Various lines on the form are missing where they have been erased, for example under the Race of Mother. The letters “pm” are the same size, but on real forms the “m” is pre-printed and much smaller. There is an attendant signature, which there wouldn’t be with an out of state birth. But the main thing is that Hawaii didn’t register out of state births in 1961.

Take a look at a line over “Full Maiden Name of Mother”. The line above abruptly starts. And you can see the box that they used to do that. If it was typed, it would not have that box.

furthermore, Barack is on a different line than the II is. That is really wierd as well.

Then they want us to believe that they’d allow:

“City of Birth: Honolulu. Island of Birth: Oahu”

But then “Hospital of Birth: Unknown, Kenya, Africa”

So, he was born in an Hospital in Kenya, but was born in Honolulu, and Oahu, and the registrar was stupid enough to actually accept this?

Then under “County & State or Foreign Country” they put “U.S.A.” Last I checked, U.S.A. was not a foreign country, and I’ve never heard of a County in Hawaii named “U.S.A.” or a State named “U.S.A.”

It puts Wichita, Kansas for the birth place of the Mother, but Kenya, Africa as the father’s. Africa is not a country, and Kenya is not a city.

This image has floated around for a year and a half. You can see where it was uploaded to TheObamaFile on October 20, 2009 here: http://theobamafile.com/_images/ .

Beyond the already-cited problems with the document, I found hilarious the document’s attempts to reconcile the Birther theories with the COLB information. Most notably, it clearly states that the place of birth is “Honolulu” and the island of birth is “Oahu,” as on the COLB, but then it adds a footnote with the completely contradictory information “Birthplace: Kenya.”

So apparently, the document’s thesis is that Madelyn Dunham went into the Hawaiian DOH offices, openly *admitted* that her grandson was born in Kenya, and they still gave her a birth certificate that said he was born on Oahu.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2010/06/ ... tificates/

Even with my not so great eyesight, I can see the doctoring done to that certificate. You may believe it's serious, but you've been played.