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21 Apr 2011 09:27 - 21 Apr 2011 10:02 #181 by major bean
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Having a baby by "appointment" is not for the convenience of the mother, rather it is a fad for the convenience of the doctor. So they give drugs to induce labor. The babies delivered in this manner a quite jaundiced. (Who in the world would swallow the salesjob that it is for the convenience of the mother?)

Cesarean birth was a fad for quite some time a couple of decades ago. It was promoted by the doctors to generate more revenues for the doctors.
Implanting pacemakers was another fad (and moneymaker).
Tonsil and adnoid removal was quite the fad for decades.
Full body CAT scans was the craze a couple of years ago. (Talk about cancer causes!)

Sure you heard all of the rationalizations for such fads and the true believers would pound you for being insensitive and such. But, still, it was just a fad. Life threatening fads, but still fads.

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Major Bean

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21 Apr 2011 09:48 #182 by Sunshine Girl
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rldbailey wrote:

Sunshine Girl wrote: I was just commenting on this disease the other day and today there was a new article on it. It is very interesting. Now if we could just find a cure for 'selective memory.' lol

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/health/ ... etail.html


To find a cure for "selective memory" would deny every man their last legitimate excuse for not listening!!!!! LOL LOL :jk2:

No not really! LOL


Amen to that sista! lol

" I'll try anything once, twice if I like it, three times to make sure. " Mae West

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21 Apr 2011 09:59 #183 by major bean
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Did you know that a person has a limit of Xray exposure per lifetime that should not be exeeded? Medical personnel apparently do not know this. They order Xrays like candy without regard to the cummulative effects of Xray and cancer. It is a medical fad. The patient is the one who must beware and protect himself/herself and children. Chest Xray anyone?

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Major Bean

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21 Apr 2011 10:00 #184 by major bean
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Could ADHD be a fad? Dooya reckon?

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Major Bean

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21 Apr 2011 10:01 #185 by Sunshine Girl
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I had all three of my children by C-Section. The first one wasn't planned that way and the other two were. With the first one I was in labor for about 24 hours and he had to be induced because he was already two weeks late which isn't a good thing at all. After many, many hours dilated to 7 he started to go into fetal distress and we almost lost him. When that happened it was extremely scary and I was in the operating room before I really knew what was going on. I thank the doctors for saving my son. After you've had a C-Section it is risky to have a VBAC (Vaginal Birth After Cesarean). My doctor was wonderful and educated me a little bit on both. I did my own intensive research and decided I didn't want to take the risk and opted for another C-Section. For the third I had no choice. All my children scored well on the APGAR even with my son going into distress.

Again, I caution those who are not doctors, women themselves, or who have experienced the actual situation to take a moment before making sweeping generalizations. I had three wonderful pregnancies, three great children, and three birth experiences that all ended safely for the mother and the child. Who could ask for anything more. I think it's a shame if someone does not see the magical experience of carrying a child and bringing it into this world. Perhaps it is a different experience for a woman. Perhaps it is one of those things that affect people differently. For me it was a magical experience. :heart:

" I'll try anything once, twice if I like it, three times to make sure. " Mae West

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21 Apr 2011 10:04 #186 by major bean
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I was a 10 month baby. Nature takes care of that.
Induced labor and cesarean was a fad. Each case is rationalized but looking at it nationally over a period of time reveals it to be faddish.

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Major Bean

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21 Apr 2011 10:04 #187 by Sunshine Girl
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major bean wrote: Did you know that a person has a limit of Xray exposure per lifetime that should not be exeeded? Medical personnel apparently do not know this. They order Xrays like candy without regard to the cummulative effects of Xray and cancer. It is a medical fad. The patient is the one who must beware and protect himself/herself and children. Chest Xray anyone?


Is that a proposition? :wink:















Sorry MB, I couldn't help myself. It's just one of those days. :biggrin:

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21 Apr 2011 10:06 #188 by major bean
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Not in the least. Chest Xray causes cancer. It is little wonder that it finds more breast cancers. The experts just fail to tell you that breast cancer is caused by the search for breast cancer.

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Major Bean

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21 Apr 2011 10:20 #189 by Sunshine Girl
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I was just kidding about the offer.

Late preterm births put infants at a high risks for many things.

I wouldn't take the word of the doctor or do something serious because it was a fad. AND I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T MAKE A DECISION THAT AFFECTED MY HEALTH OR MY BABY'S HEALTH BECAUSE SOMEONE ON A MESSAGE BOARD HAD AN OPINION! I make my decisions based on research and doing WHAT IS THINK IS BEST. I'm sure most people do. JMO

" I'll try anything once, twice if I like it, three times to make sure. " Mae West

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21 Apr 2011 10:43 #190 by major bean
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Sunshine Girl wrote: I had all three of my children by C-Section. The first one wasn't planned that way and the other two were. With the first one I was in labor for about 24 hours and he had to be induced because he was already two weeks late which isn't a good thing at all. After many, many hours dilated to 7 he started to go into fetal distress and we almost lost him. When that happened it was extremely scary and I was in the operating room before I really knew what was going on. I thank the doctors for saving my son. After you've had a C-Section it is risky to have a VBAC (Vaginal Birth After Cesarean). My doctor was wonderful and educated me a little bit on both. I did my own intensive research and decided I didn't want to take the risk and opted for another C-Section. For the third I had no choice. All my children scored well on the APGAR even with my son going into distress.

Again, I caution those who are not doctors, women themselves, or who have experienced the actual situation to take a moment before making sweeping generalizations. I had three wonderful pregnancies, three great children, and three birth experiences that all ended safely for the mother and the child. Who could ask for anything more. I think it's a shame if someone does not see the magical experience of carrying a child and bringing it into this world. Perhaps it is a different experience for a woman. Perhaps it is one of those things that affect people differently. For me it was a magical experience. :heart:

My wife and I are old hippies. That may be hard for some to believe but it is the truth.
Concerning the birth of our youngest two daughters my wife decided that she would deliver them naturally, outside, in a teepee. I was the attenting midwife. No painkillers, no drugs, totally natural.

I was shocked by this decision. I had assisted with the delivery of sheep, cattle, horses, etc. Even watched a couple of eggs hatch. But my knowledge of childbirth was "zip".

My mother was beside herself with disapproval. My mother-in-law had the legal work started for my wife to divorce me. Grandmothers descended upon us and started squawking like a bunch of crows at a hawk. All my poor kin scratched together the money to pay for the hospital delivery, which we refused with politeness.

I erected the dwelling, my wife gathered rugs and skins. She started making swaddling and other primitive necessaries.

To my amazement, my wife actually carried through with her desire and we had both of our youngest babies outside, in a teepee, as our ancestors had done for time out of mind.

Here is a secret that you must not repeat to anyone: my wife said that after delivery she had the almost uncontrollable desire to eat the afterbirth. This was disallowed by my removal and disposal of the afterbirth.

This is our baby delivery story. There are many more details of this story but it would take many pages of narrative.

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Major Bean

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