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16 Apr 2011 21:22 #1 by lil precious

Pharmacies Report Shortage Of ADHD Drugs
DENVER -- There's a nationwide shortage of generic versions of two of the most commonly prescribed ADHD medications, methylphenidate hydrochloride and amphetamine mixed salts.

7NEWS checked, and we found pharmacies scattered all over the Front Range that were completely cleaned out of certain doses.

Without the daily medication, it doesn't take long for symptoms to come back


http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27 ... etail.html

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16 Apr 2011 21:24 #2 by major bean
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ADHD. Any parent who would let their child be doped up is unloving and not fit to be a parent.

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16 Apr 2011 22:57 #3 by ScienceChic
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Wow. Way to put yourself in someone else's shoes and be a little understanding and empathetic.

Our son is on medicine for ADHD - his problems were recognized at age 4 in daycare, and it runs in his father's family. We tried sensory integration therapy for a year (and spent over $1,000 dollars in the process), jin shin, diet changes, traditional behavioral counseling, modified our schedules/interventions at home to be more accommodating based on several books recommended to us by the therapists, behavioral plans at school with the input of the school psychologist, instructional coach, principal, and his teacher, and finally, tried medicine for the last 5 months of kindergarten. We took him back off for the summer and started 1st grade without it. Made it to February, when he came to us and asked for the medicine again because he recognized that he couldn't concentrate and focus to get his work done without it. Since he's been on it, he is meeting or exceeding expectations at school in everything but writing and raising his hand before speaking out.

ADHD, and many neurochemical drugs, are admittedly crude methods to compensate for a lack, or overstimulation, of a chemical pathway in the brain. There's a long way to go before modern medicine fine-tunes the doses, and drugs targets/effects, but it's better than nothing. And to assume that parents haven't exhausted every other outlet, but are just unloving and unfit, is insensitive and, frankly, insulting.

The ADHD drugs, in particular, are out of the system within 24 hours (so he can stop taking it anytime he wants, and it'll be gone by the next day), but have one major side effect: stunting of growth (often through appetite suppression, sadly, one of the newer methods that anorexics have been exploiting in recent years). They can also have trouble sleeping. Our son has never dipped below the 90th percentile on height and is still on track to be 6'3" like his Daddy (he eats like a horse, sleeps 11 hours every night, and, at age 7, is already 5/6 my height, and I'm 2 inches taller than the average for a woman). His health is great, and he likes school better - it's not so hard for him, and has more friends now that he is on medicine (before no one wanted to be put into a group with him - they'd get into trouble b/c he'd just be disruptive and they wouldn't get their assignment done). And the greatest predictor of a kid succeeding in school is whether they like it or not, so that's what matters most to us.

He's not so "doped up" that he's a zombie - he's still active, independent, loud, curious, assertive, and opinionated, as anyone's who's spent any time with him can attest. We've had bi-annual visits with his pediatrician to monitor his progress and if we need to modify his dosage - he's on one of the lowest possible for his size, and we have to have the prescription written new every month - there's no automation to this process whatsoever. So, no, not all parents just automatically put their kids on drugs because they are too "active" and the lazy parents don't want to "deal with them". We want what's best for our kids, and this has turned out to be the best option for our son. Doesn't mean we don't worry about it, and its effects on him, or that we've become hands-off, uncaring parents in the process, or that we aren't still open to alternative methods and would like to discontinue the drug use.

The long-term studies, too, have not found any correlations of negative side effects. Interestingly, there has been no statistically significant difference between drugs, traditional behavioral counseling, or alternative therapies in mitigating the effects or predicting success in life - my personal take on that is that as long as the parents remain actively involved in helping their child, engaged in their accommodations and helping them learn to recognize the onset of ADHD symptoms (like when they get tired, or hungry, or have to sit for a long period), and to gain the abilities of self-control, that whatever type of help they have in the early days will get them to the end point of dealing with their symptoms as an adult. It's a life-long struggle, especially for those who have it more severely, and it takes maturity and self-discipline to develop to get to the point that they can regulate themselves (younger kids just don't have the capability and need assistance). Certainly ADHD can be a strength - Michael Phelps credits is as being the source of his energy and drive to become as great a swimmer as he has - he puts in long hours of training because he has so much energy to "burn off" - he's learned how to harness it and use it. But, if not addressed actively, can deeply hurt the child's chances at success.

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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16 Apr 2011 23:13 #4 by chickaree
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One thing i learned being a parent is that until you've lived it you don't get it.

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16 Apr 2011 23:18 #5 by Sunshine Girl
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Sounds like your doing a great job. He's lucky to have you as his mom.

" I'll try anything once, twice if I like it, three times to make sure. " Mae West

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17 Apr 2011 06:32 #6 by AspenValley
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major bean wrote: ADHD. Any parent who would let their child be doped up is unloving and not fit to be a parent.


This is possibly the most ignorant, nastiest statement I've ever seen on this forum. And that's saying something.

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17 Apr 2011 07:48 #7 by CinnamonGirl
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I am not defending MB statement but thinking he didn't mean it the way it sounded?? Giving you the benefit of the doubt MB. Good opening if you want to retract your statement.

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17 Apr 2011 08:38 #8 by major bean
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I will not retract my statement. Rather I will post a link that an involved parent should read in its entirety. it is a rather lengthy piece The Drugging of Our Children By Gary Null.

Here are a few quotes but please do not let these substitute for the article:

Medication advocates would argue that those children who are prescribed psychotropic drugs do in fact need them. Children with affective disturbances or attention deficits can focus better, and thus learn better when medicated, they say. Opponents protest that the efficacy and safety of these drugs have not been proven, and some, further, believe that many psychiatric “conditions” exist only as labels in the minds of psychologists. Whether or not these conditions are real, one must agree that the exceedingly high numbers of prescriptions written for children in recent years are a cause for grave concern. And they’re of concern not just to the children and parents directly touched by individual diagnoses, but to society at large. Consider the Columbine massacre and the rash of other school shootings that have rocked this country recently. As the Washington Times Insight Magazine reports, “the common link in the high school shootings may be psychotropic drugs like Ritalin and Prozac.” For example, in 1998, 14-year-old Kip Kinkle killed his parents and then went on a shooting spree at his Springfield, Oregon, high school, killing two and injuring 22. He was being treated with Ritalin and Prozac. Then there was the15-year-old taking Ritalin who in 1999 wounded six classmates in Heritage High School in Georgia, and the 18-year-old who raped and murdered a 7-year-old girl in 1997, one week after starting to take Dexedrine. One can’t help but ask whether psychotropic drugs are dangerous not just to those taking them, but also, in some cases, to “innocent bystanders.”

And there are some other basic questions people are beginning to ask as well: Do all these children need to be taking all these drugs? Are they really sick?

By far, the overwhelming majority of psychotropic prescriptions for children are given for attention deficit disorder (ADD) or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). In some instances, taking medicine is a prerequisite for attending school, with refusal to comply considered grounds for dismissal, or worse, removal of the child from the home by the state. This outrages Dr. Fred Baughman, a board-certified child neurologist trained at New York University and Mount Sinai, and a fellow of the American Academy of Neurology. Baughman feels that it’s one thing for a court to intervene and take over as legal guardian in a case where a child’s life is truly at risk, but quite another thing when psychotropic drugs are forced on children who don’t fit into the mold. For instance, Baughman says, for religious reasons parents may refuse a needed blood transfusion for a child, or they may refuse to allow treatment of diabetes—a real disease—with insulin, a real treatment. The courts may have to intervene in such cases. But courts should have no place in mandating that behavioral problems in children be treated with drugs. “There are no physical or chemical abnormalities in these children,” Baughman states. “The idea that there is is a false belief spouted by psychiatry…. For courts to intervene and to mandate such treatment, as though these were legitimate diseases or legitimate medical emergencies, is leading to tyranny over parents of normal children….When we’re talking about…so-called psychiatric disorders, none of them are actual diseases due to physical abnormalities within the child,” states Baughman.


Here is the link: http://familyrightsassociation.com/bin/white_papers-articles/drugging_our_children/

There is very much more informative information in this article but I cannot post it all here in one post. It is absolutely necessary for the interested person to read.

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Major Bean

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17 Apr 2011 08:48 #9 by major bean
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Here is a lengthy video which should be watched.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-drugging-of-our-children/

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17 Apr 2011 08:55 #10 by major bean
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Here is the link: http://familyrightsassociation.com/bin/white_papers-articles/drugging_our_children/

An American Phenomenon. An important argument against the thesis that ADHD and ADD are actual conditions is that the epidemic appears to be confined to North America. The use of Ritalin and similar prescriptions is overwhelmingly concentrated in the United States and Canada. In fact, these two countries account for 96 percent of their use throughout the world, and children in the U.S. have been estimated to be from 10 to 50 times more likely to be labeled as having ADD than their counterparts in Britain or France.[xiv] In American public schools, about 10 percent of all children in grades K-12 carry an ADHD diagnosis. Europe, by contrast, has a fraction of one percent so labeled. Could the United States and Canada really be so unique in the recent drastic upsurge of this malady?

Many in the health field are calling for more research in this area. For instance, Thomas Moore, senior fellow in health policy at George Washington University Medical Center, who feels that brain damage from Ritalin is more common than has been admitted, often questions the rationale of giving Ritalin to children, stating that the chemical imbalance theory has not been established by any scientific evidence. And while the public is given information by the National Institutes of Mental Health that ADHD is neurobiological in nature, NIMH psychiatrist Peter Jensen stated in 1996, “The National Institutes of Mental Health does not have an official position on whether ADHD is a neurobiological disorder.” In other words, this agency is talking out of both sides of its mouth—not that this is an uncommon phenomenon in Washington.

Psychologist Diane McGuiness summed up the situation in 1991 by saying, “We have invented a disease, given it medical sanction, and now must disown it. The major question is, how do we go about destroying the monster we’ve created? It is not easy to do this and still save face.”

Psychiatry’s Campaign of Labeling—and Lobbying

Despite the lack of evidence supporting the existence of ADHD and ADD, many parents never think to question the teachers, psychologists, and pediatricians who have labeled their children with these conditions, or to ask about the possible consequences of routine medication with a Class II substance. Those who do express concern are reassured that the experts know best, and then often sent to CHADD, or Children and Adults with Attention Deficit Disorders, a nationwide advocacy group for ADHD/ADD adults and parents of children diagnosed with the disorders. The group is ostensibly an objective agency guided by the latest scientific findings. Its messages: that ADHD and ADD are legitimate diseases necessitating medical treatment, that prescribed treatments are safe, and that parents refusing to medicate their children are negligent. But there’s something that CHADD doesn’t tell its audience, and that is that the group was created and funded by the manufacturer of Ritalin—originally Ciba-Geigy, now Novartis—for the purpose of increasing sales.

In effect, CHADD is a lobbying group. And it’s a powerful one, with more than 500 chapters and 32,000 members. “Most parents are unaware that the group is funded by Novartis,” notes Dr. David Stein, author of Ritalin is Not the Answer: A Drug-Free Practical Program for Children Diagnosed with ADD or ADHD.[xv] “I’ve had many of them come to my talks, only to walk out shaking their heads that they didn’t know all this stuff,” Stein says. “They’re given very biased information all along, and they become believers that they have children with diseases and that drugs are absolutely necessary, which is sad.”


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Major Bean

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