Just so you all know

Good parenting includes protecting your child from social scrutiny. A parent should never voluntarily say publicly or privately that their child has a personality, character, or mental problem.

This is not in the best interest of the child and it may follow him/her for the rest of life, in commerce, with the government, and in relationship with civil liberties. Certain things should be kept private.

SC:

I said maybe an apology was in order because he showed that there were two sides to the coin, or story. He shouldn't be attacked for having posted an alternative theory if for no reason at all but to give you a different opinion on the subject. Maybe it will get you to do more research, maybe not. That is up to you. I do commend him for his research.

One thing I do know is that when I was young, before they came up with this diagnosis, we also had children who showed these exact same symptoms. Other methods were used. I happen to have a life long friend who would have been diagnosed with ADHD had it been known then as a disease. Today he is a scientist just like you are SC, only his life is very much different than it might have been if he had been raised on Ritalin. Other than that, I do not have a dog in this fight. I felt when I read the thread earlier, that MB had shown a totally different perspective that might have had some merit if you didn't think he was putting you down, though that was a natural response from any mother.

wow nmysys....you don't think a statement like this:

major bean wrote: ADHD. Any parent who would let their child be doped up is unloving and not fit to be a parent.

shouldn't make SC think that major bean is putting down any parent who chooses medication for their child for ADHD?

major bean wrote: Good parenting includes protecting your child from social scrutiny. A parent should never voluntarily say publicly or privately that their child has a personality, character, or mental problem.

This is not in the best interest of the child and it may follow him/her for the rest of life, in commerce, with the government, and in relationship with civil liberties. Certain things should be kept private.

Are you worried about consequences for the child, or how having child with health/mental issues reflects on you as a parent?

Archer:

Hopefully you CAN read!!!

I felt when I read the thread earlier, that MB had shown a totally different perspective that might have had some merit if you didn't think he was putting you down, though that was a natural response from any mother.

archer wrote:

major bean wrote: Good parenting includes protecting your child from social scrutiny. A parent should never voluntarily say publicly or privately that their child has a personality, character, or mental problem.

This is not in the best interest of the child and it may follow him/her for the rest of life, in commerce, with the government, and in relationship with civil liberties. Certain things should be kept private.

Are you worried about consequences for the child, or how having child with health/mental issues reflects on you as a parent?

I stated exactly what I meant. I see that you are at your mind reading again. You ought to start a mind reading business at the state fair this fall.

And also the child should not be told that he has a problem, or is different, or deficient. This destroys a child and the results will wreak family and social havoc whenever he starts into adulthood.

major bean wrote: Good parenting includes protecting your child from social scrutiny. A parent should never voluntarily say publicly or privately that their child has a personality, character, or mental problem.

This is not in the best interest of the child and it may follow him/her for the rest of life, in commerce, with the government, and in relationship with civil liberties. Certain things should be kept private.

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you here MB. You sound like SC should be ashamed or embarrassed because her child suffers with something that MANY other people have too. I don't believe that there is ANYTHING that needs to be swept under the rug or only dealt with privately. Quite on the contrary in fact. Let's take Alzheimers disease for a different example. This is something that effects older people instead of younger people. If my parent was afflicted with this ailment I would not be embarrassed or ashamed either. I believe the only way to NOT stigmatize people is for people to talk about it and share their experiences in dealing with it. Also by not sweeping it under the carpet do we make it a very real issue that we NEED TO talk about and find a cure or ways of alleviating some of the symptoms it causes. There is NO SHAME when anyone has a disorder, disease, or condition. As a society our first responsibility to ourselves and our neighbors should be compassion and understanding. But that is just my opinion. When you look at the situation in the way of "Good parenting includes protecting your child from social scrutiny. A parent should never voluntarily say publicly or privately that their child has a personality, character, or mental problem" then it is no wonder we have bullying in schools, a partial close-minded society, and a lack of compassion to our fellow human beings.

archer wrote:

major bean wrote: Good parenting includes protecting your child from social scrutiny. A parent should never voluntarily say publicly or privately that their child has a personality, character, or mental problem.

This is not in the best interest of the child and it may follow him/her for the rest of life, in commerce, with the government, and in relationship with civil liberties. Certain things should be kept private.

Are you worried about consequences for the child, or how having child with health/mental issues reflects on you as a parent?

Wow, never thought of it that way. EXCELLENT POINT!

major bean wrote:

archer wrote:

major bean wrote: Good parenting includes protecting your child from social scrutiny. A parent should never voluntarily say publicly or privately that their child has a personality, character, or mental problem.

This is not in the best interest of the child and it may follow him/her for the rest of life, in commerce, with the government, and in relationship with civil liberties. Certain things should be kept private.

Are you worried about consequences for the child, or how having child with health/mental issues reflects on you as a parent?

I stated exactly what I meant. I see that you are at your mind reading again. You ought to start a mind reading business at the state fair this fall.

And also the child should not be told that he has a problem, or is different, or deficient. This destroys a child and the results will wreak family and social havoc whenever he starts into adulthood.

Again I disagree. If one is blind it would be foolish to not tell them. If one has a medical condition like Asthma it would be unethical to not diagnose it and treat it. Why the stigma with this? And that is what is sounds like people are trying to do....stigmatize it. I don't get it. If it were my child I would not want to see them suffer. I would want to diagnose what is going on, find a good treatment for them, and help them to live a more stable and peaceful life and to KNOW that there is NOTHING wrong with them as a person, it is just something they will have to deal with. And when I say to treat it I understand that can be through many different ways. I do believe in using the least amount of medication when medication is called for. Diet and exercise are an important component of this issue and SC well recognizes it. Why you assume any parent is telling their child that they are "deficient" I don't get. Dealing with a medical issue whether it be cancer or something else DOES NOT make one a "deficient" human being. Maybe that is the real problem here. People who think it does. Sad.

major bean wrote:

archer wrote:

major bean wrote: Good parenting includes protecting your child from social scrutiny. A parent should never voluntarily say publicly or privately that their child has a personality, character, or mental problem.

This is not in the best interest of the child and it may follow him/her for the rest of life, in commerce, with the government, and in relationship with civil liberties. Certain things should be kept private.

Are you worried about consequences for the child, or how having child with health/mental issues reflects on you as a parent?

I stated exactly what I meant. I see that you are at your mind reading again. You ought to start a mind reading business at the state fair this fall.

And also the child should not be told that he has a problem, or is different, or deficient. This destroys a child and the results will wreak family and social havoc whenever he starts into adulthood.

I simply asked a question major bean.....your little insult was uncalled for.

I asked the question not because of this thread, but of one a month or so back when you claimed that you had perfect children because you had the perfect parenting technique. You expanded on that to say the kids who were not perfect were the result of bad parents. When I questioned you on that you called me a slut and an unfit mother. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that had your children been less than perfect you would have to blame your parenting and their imperfections would reflect badly upon you and your parenting skills.