Just so you all know

This apology thing is just a distraction. MB if you feel you need an apology from me, feel free to PM me and we can work it out privately.

CinnamonGirl wrote: This apology thing is just a distraction. MB if you feel you need an apology from me, feel free to PM me and we can work it out privately.

Huh!?! Maybe it's none of my business (it usually isn't ), but WHY!!!! would you own MB an apology??????? I'm so confused. Surprised? Don't be. :faint:

Just because I don't want it to be an issue. Knowing MB from his posts I don't think he will take issue or is the type to need one but if he does one I am girl enough to do it but off the thread so we can continue to debate the adhd issue.

CinnamonGirl wrote: Just because I don't want it to be an issue. Knowing MB from his posts I don't think he will take issue or is the type to need one but if he does one I am girl enough to do it but off the thread so we can continue to debate the adhd issue.

But you didn't say anything wrong from what I've read. Just seems very backwards to me. He has stressed that he feels no need to apologize for his strong comments so I don't know why you would owe him one. I think he's game for debating the issue as it is now. I'm all for apologizing when one is needed, but not to baby someone when they don't deserve one. Maybe there is more to what is going on than I know about. Carry on folks. tongue:

Sounds good to me SG. I don't think there is anything more to know. Not on my end.

Okay, I am watching the end of the Rox game so just quickly. I don't believe in ADHD and when I say that what I mean is I don't like the label. I think some of our brightest people have ADHD. They just work differently and I would say it is more of a personality. I tend to have the same issue as an adult.

I am not big on meds but I do know that if a parent has done the research and find it does help them concentrate and they find that the side effects are worth it, then meds might be in order.

Pleeeaaassseee, does anyone on this forum believe SC would put her child on drugs without researching to a fault?

I do agree that doctors do tend to over prescribe and not to take a doctors word as doctrine but it is different for each child and family to decide. I could never make a sweeping statement that it is cruel and unusual, but I will say I am thinking there are families out there that do take the easy way out without research.

In SC's case there is no way you can tell me that she she is an unloving parent.

I also hate labeling ADHD as a 'disorder'. I think it can make life difficult but they are the brightest kids around and that is why they can be difficult that is just a good thing but just hard on the parents.

I know SC personally and she is a great mom and her child is a sweetheart.

Sunshine Girl wrote:

major bean wrote: Good parenting includes protecting your child from social scrutiny. A parent should never voluntarily say publicly or privately that their child has a personality, character, or mental problem.

This is not in the best interest of the child and it may follow him/her for the rest of life, in commerce, with the government, and in relationship with civil liberties. Certain things should be kept private.

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you here MB. You sound like SC should be ashamed or embarrassed because her child suffers with something that MANY other people have too. I don't believe that there is ANYTHING that needs to be swept under the rug or only dealt with privately. Quite on the contrary in fact. Let's take Alzheimers disease for a different example. This is something that effects older people instead of younger people. If my parent was afflicted with this ailment I would not be embarrassed or ashamed either. I believe the only way to NOT stigmatize people is for people to talk about it and share their experiences in dealing with it. Also by not sweeping it under the carpet do we make it a very real issue that we NEED TO talk about and find a cure or ways of alleviating some of the symptoms it causes. There is NO SHAME when anyone has a disorder, disease, or condition. As a society our first responsibility to ourselves and our neighbors should be compassion and understanding. But that is just my opinion. When you look at the situation in the way of "Good parenting includes protecting your child from social scrutiny. A parent should never voluntarily say publicly or privately that their child has a personality, character, or mental problem" then it is no wonder we have bullying in schools, a partial close-minded society, and a lack of compassion to our fellow human beings.

That post concerned the child. To hell with how the parent feels. The child's best interest is what the parent should have in her/his heart.

If a parent has issues with what problems that their child may have, then the parent has some major issues.

archer wrote: I simply asked a question major bean.....your little insult was uncalled for.

It was totally called for. You were trying to assign very base motives to my upright post. Deal with it!

CinnamonGirl wrote: Sounds good to me SG. I don't think there is anything more to know. Not on my end.

Okay, I am watching the end of the Rox game so just quickly. I don't believe in ADHD and when I say that what I mean is I don't like the label. I think some of our brightest people have ADHD. They just work differently and I would say it is more of a personality. I tend to have the same issue as an adult.

I am not big on meds but I do know that if a parent has done the research and find it does help them concentrate and they find that the side effects are worth it, then meds might be in order.

Pleeeaaassseee, does anyone on this forum believe SC would put her child on drugs without researching to a fault?

I do agree that doctors do tend to over prescribe and not to take a doctors word as doctrine but it is different for each child and family to decide. I could never make a sweeping statement that it is cruel and unusual, but I will say I am thinking there are families out there that do take the easy way out without research.

In SC's case there is no way you can tell me that she she is an unloving parent.

I also hate labeling ADHD as a 'disorder'. I think it can make life difficult but they are the brightest kids around and that is why they can be difficult that is just a good thing but just hard on the parents.

I know SC personally and she is a great mom and her child is a sweetheart.

CinnamonGirl wrote: This apology thing is just a distraction. MB if you feel you need an apology from me, feel free to PM me and we can work it out privately.

There is absolutely no apology needed. I have not asked for one because no offense was taken. In fact I took your post as the most positive that was possible considering my entry into the subject.

major bean wrote:

Sunshine Girl wrote:

major bean wrote: Good parenting includes protecting your child from social scrutiny. A parent should never voluntarily say publicly or privately that their child has a personality, character, or mental problem.

This is not in the best interest of the child and it may follow him/her for the rest of life, in commerce, with the government, and in relationship with civil liberties. Certain things should be kept private.

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you here MB. You sound like SC should be ashamed or embarrassed because her child suffers with something that MANY other people have too. I don't believe that there is ANYTHING that needs to be swept under the rug or only dealt with privately. Quite on the contrary in fact. Let's take Alzheimers disease for a different example. This is something that effects older people instead of younger people. If my parent was afflicted with this ailment I would not be embarrassed or ashamed either. I believe the only way to NOT stigmatize people is for people to talk about it and share their experiences in dealing with it. Also by not sweeping it under the carpet do we make it a very real issue that we NEED TO talk about and find a cure or ways of alleviating some of the symptoms it causes. There is NO SHAME when anyone has a disorder, disease, or condition. As a society our first responsibility to ourselves and our neighbors should be compassion and understanding. But that is just my opinion. When you look at the situation in the way of "Good parenting includes protecting your child from social scrutiny. A parent should never voluntarily say publicly or privately that their child has a personality, character, or mental problem" then it is no wonder we have bullying in schools, a partial close-minded society, and a lack of compassion to our fellow human beings.

That post concerned the child. To hell with how the parent feels. The child's best interest is what the parent should have in her/his heart.

If a parent has issues with what problems that their child may have, then the parent has some major issues.

When the parent shows the child that there is no reason to be ashamed then the child is NOT ashamed. Most parent's hearts are in the right place I'm sure. It is the rest of society (some) that have the real problems. Deal with that!