Just so you all know

major bean wrote:

Sunshine Girl wrote: I had all three of my children by C-Section. The first one wasn't planned that way and the other two were. With the first one I was in labor for about 24 hours and he had to be induced because he was already two weeks late which isn't a good thing at all. After many, many hours dilated to 7 he started to go into fetal distress and we almost lost him. When that happened it was extremely scary and I was in the operating room before I really knew what was going on. I thank the doctors for saving my son. After you've had a C-Section it is risky to have a VBAC (Vaginal Birth After Cesarean). My doctor was wonderful and educated me a little bit on both. I did my own intensive research and decided I didn't want to take the risk and opted for another C-Section. For the third I had no choice. All my children scored well on the APGAR even with my son going into distress.

Again, I caution those who are not doctors, women themselves, or who have experienced the actual situation to take a moment before making sweeping generalizations. I had three wonderful pregnancies, three great children, and three birth experiences that all ended safely for the mother and the child. Who could ask for anything more. I think it's a shame if someone does not see the magical experience of carrying a child and bringing it into this world. Perhaps it is a different experience for a woman. Perhaps it is one of those things that affect people differently. For me it was a magical experience.

My wife and I are old hippies. That may be hard for some to believe but it is the truth.
Concerning the birth of our youngest two daughters my wife decided that she would deliver them naturally, outside, in a teepee. I was the attenting midwife. No painkillers, no drugs, totally natural.

I was shocked by this decision. I had assisted with the delivery of sheep, cattle, horses, etc. Even watched a couple of eggs hatch. But my knowledge of childbirth was "zip".

My mother was beside herself with disapproval. My mother-in-law had the legal work started for my wife to divorce me. Grandmothers descended upon us and started squawking like a bunch of crows at a hawk. All my poor kin scratched together the money to pay for the hospital delivery, which we refused with politeness.

I erected the dwelling, my wife gathered rugs and skins. She started making swaddling and other primitive necessaries.

To my amazement, my wife actually carried through with her desire and we had both of our youngest babies outside, in a teepee, as our ancestors had done for time out of mind.

Here is a secret that you must not repeat to anyone: my wife said that after delivery she had the almost uncontrollable desire to eat the afterbirth. This was disallowed by my removal and disposal of the afterbirth.

This is our baby delivery story. There are many more details of this story but it would take many pages of narrative.

Finally this thread is getting interesting...carry on MB!

Sunshine Girl wrote: I had all three of my children by C-Section. The first one wasn't planned that way and the other two were. With the first one I was in labor for about 24 hours and he had to be induced because he was already two weeks late which isn't a good thing at all. After many, many hours dilated to 7 he started to go into fetal distress and we almost lost him. When that happened it was extremely scary and I was in the operating room before I really knew what was going on. I thank the doctors for saving my son. After you've had a C-Section it is risky to have a VBAC (Vaginal Birth After Cesarean). My doctor was wonderful and educated me a little bit on both. I did my own intensive research and decided I didn't want to take the risk and opted for another C-Section. For the third I had no choice. All my children scored well on the APGAR even with my son going into distress.

Again, I caution those who are not doctors, women themselves, or who have experienced the actual situation to take a moment before making sweeping generalizations. I had three wonderful pregnancies, three great children, and three birth experiences that all ended safely for the mother and the child. Who could ask for anything more. I think it's a shame if someone does not see the magical experience of carrying a child and bringing it into this world. Perhaps it is a different experience for a woman. Perhaps it is one of those things that affect people differently. For me it was a magical experience.

I would highly suspect that you caused the problem which required the C-section. Ergo; inducement of labor. And the subsequent C-sections were absolutely necessary because the initial C-section destroyed the intergity of the womb so that natural birth was out of the question.

MB, "because the initial C-section destroyed the intergity of the womb"
IMO, I think that is a very valid comment, has there been any studies about that theory, I'd LOVE to read more about the subject.

My sister's first two were delivered by c-section, a similar story to SG's.... HOWEVER.... after she had checked in to the hospital for her 3rd child to be delivered by c-section the following morning, she went into labor that evening and delivered him vaginally. Her 4th was also a vaginal birth.

Never say never....

MB, wow. My daughter is going to a midwifery.

Childbirth used to have a 10% mortality rate. I suffered from pre-eclampsia. Before modern medicine my chances of surviving chilbirth would have been low. My dads life (a veteran of two wars) was recently saved and extended by his pacemaker. Yes, modern medicine often over treats, profits are more important than health afer all; but many people are alive today because of it. To reject all advances because some are abused is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

major bean wrote:

Sunshine Girl wrote: I had all three of my children by C-Section. The first one wasn't planned that way and the other two were. With the first one I was in labor for about 24 hours and he had to be induced because he was already two weeks late which isn't a good thing at all. After many, many hours dilated to 7 he started to go into fetal distress and we almost lost him. When that happened it was extremely scary and I was in the operating room before I really knew what was going on. I thank the doctors for saving my son. After you've had a C-Section it is risky to have a VBAC (Vaginal Birth After Cesarean). My doctor was wonderful and educated me a little bit on both. I did my own intensive research and decided I didn't want to take the risk and opted for another C-Section. For the third I had no choice. All my children scored well on the APGAR even with my son going into distress.

Again, I caution those who are not doctors, women themselves, or who have experienced the actual situation to take a moment before making sweeping generalizations. I had three wonderful pregnancies, three great children, and three birth experiences that all ended safely for the mother and the child. Who could ask for anything more. I think it's a shame if someone does not see the magical experience of carrying a child and bringing it into this world. Perhaps it is a different experience for a woman. Perhaps it is one of those things that affect people differently. For me it was a magical experience.

My wife and I are old hippies. That may be hard for some to believe but it is the truth.
Concerning the birth of our youngest two daughters my wife decided that she would deliver them naturally, outside, in a teepee. I was the attenting midwife. No painkillers, no drugs, totally natural.

I was shocked by this decision. I had assisted with the delivery of sheep, cattle, horses, etc. Even watched a couple of eggs hatch. But my knowledge of childbirth was "zip".

My mother was beside herself with disapproval. My mother-in-law had the legal work started for my wife to divorce me. Grandmothers descended upon us and started squawking like a bunch of crows at a hawk. All my poor kin scratched together the money to pay for the hospital delivery, which we refused with politeness.

I erected the dwelling, my wife gathered rugs and skins. She started making swaddling and other primitive necessaries.

To my amazement, my wife actually carried through with her desire and we had both of our youngest babies outside, in a teepee, as our ancestors had done for time out of mind.

Here is a secret that you must not repeat to anyone: my wife said that after delivery she had the almost uncontrollable desire to eat the afterbirth. This was disallowed by my removal and disposal of the afterbirth.

This is our baby delivery story. There are many more details of this story but it would take many pages of narrative.

That sounds VERY COOL!!!! A friend of mine wanted to have her baby delivered underwater without pain killers and I thought that was awesome. Unfortunately, there were complications and it didn't work out and she ended up needing pain killers and the baby had to be delivered at the hospital. I really wanted to do the underwater birth myself (but I knew I would need painkillers lol ), but looking back I'm glad I didn't because I don't think my son would have made it. Now he is 16 and still full of piss and vinegar (aka still giving me a hard time). lol I loved your story MB. I never had the desire to eat the afterbirth, but I did ask to take it and I planted it under the rose bush I planted in honor of my son. I did this with each child and planted two trees with the girls. One was struck by lightening (OMG) and was severed in half and died. A year later that tree came back to life amazingly enough!

major bean wrote:

Sunshine Girl wrote: I had all three of my children by C-Section. The first one wasn't planned that way and the other two were. With the first one I was in labor for about 24 hours and he had to be induced because he was already two weeks late which isn't a good thing at all. After many, many hours dilated to 7 he started to go into fetal distress and we almost lost him. When that happened it was extremely scary and I was in the operating room before I really knew what was going on. I thank the doctors for saving my son. After you've had a C-Section it is risky to have a VBAC (Vaginal Birth After Cesarean). My doctor was wonderful and educated me a little bit on both. I did my own intensive research and decided I didn't want to take the risk and opted for another C-Section. For the third I had no choice. All my children scored well on the APGAR even with my son going into distress.

Again, I caution those who are not doctors, women themselves, or who have experienced the actual situation to take a moment before making sweeping generalizations. I had three wonderful pregnancies, three great children, and three birth experiences that all ended safely for the mother and the child. Who could ask for anything more. I think it's a shame if someone does not see the magical experience of carrying a child and bringing it into this world. Perhaps it is a different experience for a woman. Perhaps it is one of those things that affect people differently. For me it was a magical experience.

I would highly suspect that you caused the problem which required the C-section. Ergo; inducement of labor. And the subsequent C-sections were absolutely necessary because the initial C-section destroyed the intergity of the womb so that natural birth was out of the question.

I think my son's GIANT head caused the problem. Seriously, I think it is the same size now as it was then. I couldn't go past two weeks because the amniotic fluid was drying up which you can't continue the pregnancy with either. I have no problem with the fact that I had 3 C-sections at all. I don't place any stigma with things like that either. My best delivery was my second one. Because it was scheduled I got to plan for it. A few hours before having her I went to the florist and arranged to have a huge bouquet of flowers delivered along with a letter of appreciation I had written to the doctor and to the entire staff. I had music playing and the entire day was one of the most memorable and happy of my life. I'm feel warm and fuzzy inside just recalling it. It matters not to me how children come into this world as much as it does that mother and child are healthy and happy.

I feel warm & fuzzy, when I rememeber, helping Wiffie brith our 2. Son had head & both arms delivered when the Dr. turned to me and said "You started it Now you can finish this."
Than he must have thought I was a pro with my daughter, he delivered the head and one arm, and said "WELL?" I delivered her therest of the way. Then the Dr. after a moment or 2, said "O You're NOT done yet, so I got to deliver the rest, and help clean-up. I look at my kids and THANK GOD EVERY THING "Came out" (no pun) OK, and am so happy that he "made", me do all that I did. I hope I NEVER forget, am worried about that...

TPP wrote: I feel warm & fuzzy, when I rememeber, helping Wiffie brith our 2. Son had head & both arms delivered when the Dr. turned to me and said "You started it Now you can finish this."
Than he must have thought I was a pro with my daughter, he delivered the head and one arm, and said "WELL?" I delivered her therest of the way. Then the Dr. after a moment or 2, said "O You're NOT done yet, so I got to deliver the rest, and help clean-up. I look at my kids and THANK GOD EVERY THING "Came out" (no pun) OK, and am so happy that he "made", me do all that I did. I hope I NEVER forget, am worried about that...

I love that you got to help. It is something that I'm sure you will never forget. I love that the doctor had a sense of humor about it too. :thumbsup: