Is it possible to be a Conservative & an Environmentalist?

28 Apr 2011 15:25 #31 by AspenValley

towermonkey wrote:

AspenValley wrote:

towermonkey wrote: AV, that is a poor example to use right now after what the current -D administration has done to the debt and the deficit.


Don't change the subject. Do you deny that what I described has been the Republican strategy for 30 years or more?


Fine, we'll beat this horse for a while longer. I disagree with you a bit anyway. Republicans believed, wrongly so, that decreasing taxes would grow the economy enough to overwhelm the debt. They decreased taxes in order to do this. It didn't work out that way, but I don't think it was part of a selfish nefarious plan to increase the debt.


I don't think they deliberately increased the debt, I think they just didn't care if they did so long as they got their tax breaks. That's about as deep as their thinking goes.

Just like they don't care if the environment gets trashed, just so they get cheap gas for their cars.

Just like they don't care if granny gets cut off from Medicare, just they don't get a tax increase.

Just like they don't care if kids don't get proper nutrition or schooling or healthcare, just so their taxes don't go up.

Starting to see a pattern here? I sure am.

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28 Apr 2011 15:32 #32 by Nmysys

Parasites like you make me want to puke.


How am I the parasite? You Liberals want Socialism wherein this Entitlement is supported by what, taking money from others who earned it, Spread the Wealth!!!

That's parasitical not anything I have ever called for.

I want no power over anything or anybody. I want Government and your Liberal Agendas to leave me well enough alone.

BTW to all of you who jumped down my throat, I was answering Heartless asking if anyone would believe.....

I haven't been involved in this discussion because it is ludicrous. I don't believe in Global Warming as being man-made, and most conservatives I know would be conservationists if it didn't get in the way of their lives, like skyrocketing fuel prices because we can't drill for our own oil. Like all the other problems caused by the EPA.

I don't think they deliberately increased the debt, I think they just didn't care if they did so long as they got their tax breaks. That's about as deep as their thinking goes.

Just like they don't care if the environment gets trashed, just so they get cheap gas for their cars.

Just like they don't care if granny gets cut off from Medicare, just they don't get a tax increase.

Just like they don't care if kids don't get proper nutrition or schooling or healthcare, just so their taxes don't go up.

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What bullsh**! We care, just don't think that the Government has the right to control any of it.

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28 Apr 2011 15:36 #33 by Ice

Nmysys wrote:

Parasites like you make me want to puke.


How am I the parasite? You Liberals want Socialism wherein this Entitlement is supported by what, taking money from others who earned it, Spread the Wealth!!!

That's parasitical not anything I have ever called for.

I want no power over anything or anybody. I want Government and your Liberal Agendas to leave me well enough alone.

BTW to all of you who jumped down my throat, I was answering Heartless asking if anyone would believe.....

I haven't been involved in this discussion because it is ludicrous. I don't believe in Global Warming as being man-made, and most conservatives I know would be conservationists if it didn't get in the way of their lives, like skyrocketing fuel prices because we can't drill for our own oil. Like all the other problems caused by the EPA.

I don't think they deliberately increased the debt, I think they just didn't care if they did so long as they got their tax breaks. That's about as deep as their thinking goes.

Just like they don't care if the environment gets trashed, just so they get cheap gas for their cars.

Just like they don't care if granny gets cut off from Medicare, just they don't get a tax increase.

Just like they don't care if kids don't get proper nutrition or schooling or healthcare, just so their taxes don't go up.

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What bullsh**! We care, just don't think that the Government has the right to control any of it.

Answer this honestly, are you living on the government dole? All I have seen says you are. My younger generation has paid for your sorry ass with all the things you profess to hate. Easy enough , renounce it!. Give it up!. Or tell me I am wrong about you and your type.

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28 Apr 2011 15:39 #34 by AspenValley

Nmysys wrote: What bullsh**! We care, just don't think that the Government has the right to control any of it.


Oh, I feel so much better knowing you CARE!

You don't fool me Nymsys, the only reason you don't think the government should be involved in any of this is that you might be asked to help pay for it. So screw the environment, screw granny, screw the kids, screw how big the deficit gets so long as you can keep pushing it off on future taxpayers.

Oh, but if it does get so big that it actually threatens the well-being of our entire economy, you can always blame it on those SOCIALIST PIGS!

rofllol

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28 Apr 2011 15:41 #35 by AspenValley

Ice wrote: Answer this honestly, are you living on the government dole?


Of course he is.

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28 Apr 2011 15:44 #36 by Wallace Stegner

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28 Apr 2011 15:46 #37 by Ice
Environmental debt is even more than the monetary crap they whine about. Selfish pricks only concerned about the next SS , pension, check. Nothing but a bunch of selfish phony chiselers..

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28 Apr 2011 15:48 #38 by Ice

Wallace Stegner wrote: Barry Goldwater was...
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And your point? He would be a faming lib today , by your crackpot standards.

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28 Apr 2011 15:54 - 28 Apr 2011 15:57 #39 by AspenValley

Ice wrote: Environmental debt is even more than the monetary crap they whine about. ..


Yes, it is. But you'd be sick to your stomach to know how many people out there wouldn't give up one dime a year to protect the water, air, or earth. I am not exagerating.

Instead, they make up elaborate stories about how the ecological scientists are liars, or are getting paid off, or even - and again, I am not making this up - that we don't need to worry about blowing through all the oil or treating the earth like a litter box because Jesus will be back soon to take all the faithful home with him.

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28 Apr 2011 15:57 #40 by Nmysys
I am living on Social security that I worked and paid into all of my life. I am sorry that you younger people won't get to see any of it, but I am neither responsible for that, nor is there anything I could do about it.

I don't think that I want Granny or Gramps to lose their S.S or Medicare, since I would then starve to death wouldn't I? Does that shoot that one down?

Environmental debt? What does that mean ICE? Why don't you take that prick out of your mouth Jerkoff and figure out is it is selfish?

You don't know sh** about me, and you think you can hide behind a screenname and call me names. Screw you!!!

We aren't selfish. We think lazy, stupid people like you should work for a living instead of begging the government to solve all of your problems.

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