Obama VS bush, it's called class

17 May 2011 13:00 #51 by PrintSmith
SEAL "Team" Six. It is a team effort archer, just as it is in a contest of no consequence such as a football game. The analogy holds regardless of whether it is a SEAL team, a SWAT team or a football team. The military goes to great effort to instill team spirit in the unit, whether it is a squad, platoon, company, battalion, brigade, division, corp or an entire army. The leader of the team credits his team, not himself. That is how he earns their respect and their loyalty.

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17 May 2011 13:18 #52 by archer
Oh gheesh....I didn't say they weren't a team....I said (and please read) this was no game....and comparing this mission to a football game is ludicris. But I guess you will keep spinning it that way so your post doesn't look disrespectful to the SEALS ( I know you don't care if you disrespect the president)

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17 May 2011 13:23 #53 by Nobody that matters

archer wrote: Oh gheesh....I didn't say they weren't a team....I said (and please read) this was no game....and comparing this mission to a football game is ludicris. But I guess you will keep spinning it that way so your post doesn't look disrespectful to the SEALS ( I know you don't care if you disrespect the president)


It's not a comparison, it's an analogy. It shows no disrespect towards the SEALs or the CIC. It simply illustrates a leadership principle in more common terms.

"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln

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17 May 2011 13:42 #54 by archer

Nobody that matters wrote:

archer wrote: Oh gheesh....I didn't say they weren't a team....I said (and please read) this was no game....and comparing this mission to a football game is ludicris. But I guess you will keep spinning it that way so your post doesn't look disrespectful to the SEALS ( I know you don't care if you disrespect the president)


It's not a comparison, it's an analogy. It shows no disrespect towards the SEALs or the CIC. It simply illustrates a leadership principle in more common terms.


another spin.....you are both flat wrong. Calling it an analogy doesn't change the fact that PrintSmith would have us believe that running a military op like this, with the inherent danger to the SEALS, not to mention the consequenses of failure to those SEALS and this country, is nothing more than a football game. There is no comparison, I don't care what you call it.

I understand, you are trying to support your fellow posters here, and that is commendable, but don't do it with ridiculous analogies that diminish what was a dangerous operation with dire results if it failed. Lose a football game....there will always be another to redeem yourself and a coach and the players know that......lose this operation and there is no do-over.

It was, and will always be, a gutsy call by Obama, a well crafted plan by the military and civilians who devised it, and an incredibly amazing job well done by the SEALS.....

too bad you all just can't leave it at that.

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17 May 2011 13:49 #55 by Nobody that matters

archer wrote: another spin.....you are both flat wrong.


I thought you liberals were supposed to be open minded, and able to consider alternate methods of expression?
All I see here is you slamming a perfectly valid point of view because you don't agree with the method of communication.
Maybe you don't think Printsmith showed any class because of the words he used to express his point of view....
the same way I don't think Obama showed any class because of the words he used in his speech.

"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln

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17 May 2011 13:55 #56 by Blazer Bob
Am I having another reading comprehension problem? The first use of the word football in this thread that I see was by archer.

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17 May 2011 14:04 #57 by LadyJazzer
How lame... Pooor, poor conservatives.... It must be so hard for you. Obama got Bin Laden....and Bush didn't...

Obama thanked the troops, but somehow not in the words you wanted him to use.

Sux-to-be-U

Boo-f**king-hoo...

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17 May 2011 14:06 #58 by Nobody that matters

LadyJazzer wrote: How lame... Pooor, poor conservatives.... It must be so hard for you. Obama got Bin Laden....and Bush didn't...

Obama thanked the troops, but somehow not in the words you wanted him to use.

Sux-to-be-U

Boo-f**king-hoo...



*<--- here's the point of this thread.
You're wandering around mumbling to yourself somewhere over that-a-way
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"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln

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17 May 2011 14:08 #59 by archer

neptunechimney wrote: Am I having another reading comprehension problem? The first use of the word football in this thread that I see was by archer.


No you're not having a reading comprehension problem

this is what PrintSmith posted

A good coach always gives credit to the team when they win and accepts the blame, for not preparing them well enough, not devising a winning game plan, or not calling the right play at a critical moment, when they lose.


Being a football fanatic ,when I see game and coach and team and game plan and right play....I use football....you could put soccer, baseball, lacrosse in there if it makes you feel better. Are you now going to spin this that PrintSmith wasn't talking about a sports team......OK maybe it was a debate team.....how about a sales team? So tell me, was this military operation a Lacrosse game?.....or maybe baseball?....how about hockey?, just what game, that has a coach and players do you think would be a better "analogy" for this military op? Talk about nit pickin, though that is how the conservatives here get out of embarrassing posts, they attack the liberal asking questions.

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17 May 2011 14:11 #60 by pineinthegrass
Why hasn't anyone posted how many "I"s Obama said when he released his birth certificate? :lol:

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