I have a very simple question for all sides

01 Jun 2011 14:55 #11 by MsMAM

BearMtnHIB wrote: <snip>

And just how will Obama prevent our country from being elevated over other nations? There's only one way to do this- make America weak.
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I am so confused - Bush also, as an example, was OK with outsourcing overseas and Americans lost their jobs - educated jobs as well.

Why do you think this is *only* a Liberal movement?

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01 Jun 2011 15:04 #12 by Martin Ent Inc
Nothing like touching a nerve on severe lefties to bring out their best.

everyone is an individual as it should be, but those that want everyone to be on the same pay scale, same income, same everything are just wrong.
Right or left you cannot dictate what others need or want. You cannot make a gov. agency/board to tell the peole what they need. The dem admin has come forward and stated they don't know what they want until we tell them.
The government needs to get out of the peoples lives all together and let We the People chose and decide.
The bickering between the people on this board Prove that we are not a United Country but a bunch of whiny, argumentive, butt holes that couldn't pick a LEADER if one was sent from the sky.

You defend YOUR party till it kills you (and it will soon) and in reality no one looks beyond their next pay check, and when it ain't what they think it should be then they cry whomever is in power must be bad.
They are all BAD and until you quit your bitchin and get rid of all the asses in government NOTHING will change.
There was a movie on recently about a guy who won an election and then went to DC and was corrupted by the system. Well I will tell you it ain't Hollywood it is real. And until the American people get off their collective ass, and change yes I said change (not Obama who doesn't know what it means, but does know what happened to him) then nothing will happen, and you will sit behind your little monitor and spew your belief's thinking you are so f'n right and nothing will happen.

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01 Jun 2011 15:05 #13 by BearMtnHIB

Why do you think this is *only* a Liberal movement?


Well - "Liberal" may be the wrong word- it is a "progressive" movement. Bush was a progressive, as is Obama- only Obama also seeks "equality". Equality in the socialist sense.

Obama is a global socialist.

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01 Jun 2011 15:10 #14 by archer

Martin Ent Inc wrote: Nothing like touching a nerve on severe lefties to bring out their best.

everyone is an individual as it should be, but those that want everyone to be on the same pay scale, same income, same everything are just wrong.
Right or left you cannot dictate what others need or want. You cannot make a gov. agency/board to tell the peole what they need. The dem admin has come forward and stated they don't know what they want until we tell them.
The government needs to get out of the peoples lives all together and let We the People chose and decide.
The bickering between the people on this board Prove that we are not a United Country but a bunch of whiny, argumentive, butt holes that couldn't pick a LEADER if one was sent from the sky.

You defend YOUR party till it kills you (and it will soon) and in reality no one looks beyond their next pay check, and when it ain't what they think it should be then they cry whomever is in power must be bad.
They are all BAD and until you quit your bitchin and get rid of all the asses in government NOTHING will change.
There was a movie on recently about a guy who won an election and then went to DC and was corrupted by the system. Well I will tell you it ain't Hollywood it is real. And until the American people get off their collective ass, and change yes I said change (not Obama who doesn't know what it means, but does know what happened to him) then nothing will happen, and you will sit behind your little monitor and spew your belief's thinking you are so f'n right and nothing will happen.


just like you do

so what's your point? There isn't one iota of meaningful difference between the right and the left

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01 Jun 2011 15:11 #15 by MsMAM

BearMtnHIB wrote:

Why do you think this is *only* a Liberal movement?


Well - "Liberal" may be the wrong word- it is a "progressive" movement. Bush was a progressive, as is Obama- only Obama also seeks "equality". Equality in the socialist sense.

Obama is a global socialist.


Hmm - interesting - I might agree with that statement. I actually have a mix of republican and dem values. Honestly, I vote a lot dem due to the openness of the liberals to gay rights. We (IMO) typically have one value that the party will hold that swings us. For some, it is gun rights, some gay rights, so pro choice or no choice.

I can see where you are coming from, though.

WOW - PS got his panties in an uproar. Hi, PS :wave: Come to my cookout, buddy.

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01 Jun 2011 15:13 #16 by Martin Ent Inc
Right archer except you defend the left and others defend the right and niether is worth squat.
Everyone here is guilty of posting on a little forum but in reality they do nada or very little to make a change.

And did you read the post or just the first couple of lines?

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01 Jun 2011 15:58 #17 by PrintSmith

MsMAM wrote: WOW - PS got his panties in an uproar. Hi, PS :wave: Come to my cookout, buddy.

Moi? I haven't even said a word yet. And this is the first I've heard of a cookout - my invite must have gotten lost in cyberspace.......... :biggrin:

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01 Jun 2011 15:59 #18 by archer

Martin Ent Inc wrote: And did you read the post or just the first couple of lines?



Oh my....here come the reading police....and y'all thought the spelling nazis were bad.....well now if you don't respond to each and every word of a post you will be called out and made an example of....horrors

Yeah, I read it all, responded to what interested me....is that like not OK?

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01 Jun 2011 16:00 #19 by Martin Ent Inc
PS,, it's a conspiracy.

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01 Jun 2011 16:03 #20 by Martin Ent Inc

archer wrote:

Martin Ent Inc wrote: And did you read the post or just the first couple of lines?



Oh my....here come the reading police....and y'all thought the spelling nazis were bad.....well now if you don't respond to each and every word of a post you will be called out and made an example of....horrors

Yeah, I read it all, responded to what interested me....is that like not OK?


I believe we are on the same page, but your response seemed to lead me elsewhere.
Because you jumped in with your usual lefty righty stuff.
I think most peeps are in aggrement on most things but their resistance to let go of their party aff. clouds their judgement on topics.

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