The rich are different — and not in a good way...

12 Aug 2011 13:10 #71 by BearMtnHIB

AspenValley wrote:

SS109 wrote:

towermonkey wrote: So many people define themselves based on what they do for a living or their net worth. That is not who you are, it is what you do. People have forgotten how to live.


But the Left will continue to villify people for being successful. Even if they do create more jobs than the poor.


Thinking a person who earns more should pay more in taxes is not "vilifying".


Time for another installment of "educate the commie".

News flash- people who earn more DO already pay more taxes, in fact - the most productive earners are supporting all the deadbeats- which is about half of the country! Yes- half the country are tax freeloaders, sponging off of the producers.

What you are actually saying is that you want to further penalize productive workers until there is no more incentive to be a top earner. Don't deny it- if this was just about paying more if you earn more- then you would just shut your big fat trap- because those who earn more already pay more- by a long shot too!

See- people like you dont think that 40.4% of all the taxes being paid by the top 1% of earners is enough. Or that the top 5% pay 70% of all the income taxes collected! Yea- 70%. You want more.

Being the compassionate person I am- I'd like to see those top producers left alone- or give um a break since they have been covering for the dead ass lazy people for so long. Lets get the deadbeats to pay their share for once!!

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12 Aug 2011 13:35 #72 by Kate
So you are for a regressive tax? Shifting the burden to those least able to pay? Increasing taxes on the lower and middle class will hurt the economy more since those that have less to begin with will now have even less to spend on essential bills.

Any tax increase on someone making less than $20,000 a year will hurt a lot more than increasing taxes on those making over $100,000.

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12 Aug 2011 13:44 #73 by BearMtnHIB

So you are for a regressive tax? Shifting the burden to those least able to pay? Increasing taxes on the lower and middle class will hurt the economy more since those that have less to begin with will now have even less to spend on essential bills.

Any tax increase on someone making less than $20,000 a year will hurt a lot more than increasing taxes on those making over $100,000.


Yes I am for shifting the burden away from the producers and on to the freeloaders. I have two reasons for wanting to do this- first, those who are top earners are also the job producers. You are all whining about not enough jobs- and you think further penalizing people who make money will help? It won't, it'll result in fewer jobs- this is a certainty.

Second- the deadbeat tax freeloaders seem to be the only ones complaining that the most successful people are not paying their share- nothing could be further from the truth here. Lets get them paying taxes, so they know what it's like to contribute. Lets see how enthusiastic they are about raising taxes when they actually start paying taxes themselves.

It's not a fair system right now- the lowest quality workers don't pay their share- in fact they pay nothing!

Let's see what their attitude is like after they start to pay even some of their share!

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12 Aug 2011 13:48 #74 by LadyJazzer
In point of fact, many of the millionaires ALSO "pay nothing"... So? Yeah, I'd like to see them pay "their fair share"... But they don't...

I suppose in your anti-commie frenzy you are somehow lumping everyone who is collecting the Social Security payments that they paid in their whole life as "freeloaders"? I'm just curious how far your delusion goes...?

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12 Aug 2011 13:49 #75 by FredHayek

Kate wrote: So you are for a regressive tax? Shifting the burden to those least able to pay? Increasing taxes on the lower and middle class will hurt the economy more since those that have less to begin with will now have even less to spend on essential bills.

Any tax increase on someone making less than $20,000 a year will hurt a lot more than increasing taxes on those making over $100,000.


Only 40% of people are paying income taxes right now, but if you increased that to 50% you would increase actual tax recipts a lot more than increasing the taxes on the 5% of us who are earning the most.

Dem talking point: The rich are earning much more than regular Americans in the past couple years. If that is so, why are are we still so far in debt?

:popcorn: Consider this, since the Obama revolution, the rich are earning more than they ever had, and both black and white male unemployment rates have reached Great Depression levels. Black wealth has gone down by 2/3's (McLaughlin Group)
Time to bring back "W" to save the economy! I don't think the poor & minorities can take another four years of Obama.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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12 Aug 2011 13:52 #76 by LadyJazzer

SS109 wrote: Dem talking point: The rich are earning much more than regular Americans in the past couple years. If that is so, why are are we still so far in debt?


You just don't get it, do you?

1) Unpaid for Bush Tax-cuts, (10 year's worth so far, and counting)
2) TWO unpaid for, and unnecessary wars
3) $700 Billion unpaid for Medicare drug benefit
4) Corporate incentives to move business offshore and hide funds

The list goes on.... Your refusal to accept it, when it's the truth, is not my problem.

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12 Aug 2011 13:54 #77 by Kate
One of the flaws in your argument is that these low income people are freeloaders, that they are lazy and do-nothings. That's generally not the case. I'm sure that in your mind, these lazy people are all sitting around, eating bon-bons and watching soap operas, or that they are the mythical "Reagan Welfare Queen," which was proven to be a lie.

There are a lot of good, hardworking people that are in low paying jobs and the just cannot pay more. You want to see a depression? Then try taxing the lower and middle class more and see what happens to spending. It will drop through the floor and there will be a real economic downturn.

The other flaw in your argument is that the wealthy produce jobs. Some do, but most just sit on their money.

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12 Aug 2011 14:03 #78 by LadyJazzer

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12 Aug 2011 14:03 #79 by BearMtnHIB

One of the flaws in your argument is that these low income people are freeloaders, that they are lazy and do-nothings. That's generally not the case. I'm sure that in your mind, these lazy people are all sitting around, eating bon-bons and watching soap operas, or that they are the mythical "Reagan Welfare Queen," which was proven to be a lie.


Some are lazy- some are welfare queens, some do-nothing, some live in their mommies basement, but they are all tax freeloaders- because they don't pay taxes. Some might be working hard- but they don't pay taxes. A Tax freeloader is a person who receives some kind of benefit for nothing. Mainly - they are allowed to earn money without paying any income taxes- while the rest of us have to cover their butts.

And on top of that these tax freeloaders vote for politicians who want to tax the better earners even more- after they already pay much more than their fair share.

LJ- try to stay on topic.

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12 Aug 2011 14:04 #80 by LadyJazzer
You don't... Why should I?

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