Don't know if I can stomach all the 9/11 tributes

10 Sep 2011 11:48 #51 by ComputerBreath
As 9/11 was not the first tragedy I experienced, I completely understand what some may call an obsession with remembering.

For me, knowing everything possible about hows and whys helps me to understand better. It also helps me with my grieving process. But thats how I handle tragedy and certainly isn't how everyone deals with it.

I do not believe that the attacks on 9/11 or any tragedies should be used by anyone for political reasons...though since almost everything else is used for political purposes, these types of happenings will be.

I chose to watch the documentaries on TV and read about these because I am very interested in how humans are...and in learning by watching. I also chose to watch and read because my heart fills with goodness when I hear or read or see the people that survived and some that even thrived.

When I remember my sister...her life and her love...on her special days AND the day she was murdered, I am celebrating her life...not her murder. And I'm celebrating my family and remembering not to take them for granted.

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10 Sep 2011 11:54 #52 by The Viking

WayneLeeH wrote:

Vice Lord wrote: Firemen signing the national anthems, Jet fly overs and the celebration of war, uniformed military personel everywhere...What do they have to do with 9/11 anyway? And why are we honoring cops again?

Such a strange reaction to an attack on us..We got sucker punched by a dozen religious retards, so why get patriotic..?

Trying to understand





:rofl rofllol

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10 Sep 2011 12:31 #53 by Arlen

chickaree wrote: Isn't it sad that every thread seems to degenerate into a mindless partisan bashfest? Is that how you people see the world? Us vs. Them? If so, then the 9/11 attackers have won.

Because LadyJazzer has an agenda and wants to spew hate and discord. LadyJazzer does not only disagree with her opponents, but she hates them. This will be denied by her, but her posts scream otherwise.

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10 Sep 2011 12:42 #54 by chickaree
She's not the only one.

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10 Sep 2011 13:21 #55 by Arlen
I do believe that she is.

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10 Sep 2011 13:37 #56 by cydl

Local_Historian wrote: There's remembering, and then there's glorifcation of it. The glorification part has gotten out of hand, truly.

Honor those who did their job, mourn those who died, but it is NOTHING to "celebrate". I have ever gotten "celebrating" the death of anyone, and If I'm reading VL right, its this part that bothers him.

I know it bothers the hell out of me, so I'm going to be at work, doing a haunt build, working likely 10 hours just like today, avoiding a celebration of a tragedy.



:yeahthat: :goodpost:

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10 Sep 2011 13:42 #57 by chickaree

Arlen wrote: I do believe that she is.

Then you are not reading accurately. But that doesn't surprise me as your pasts and Ladyjazzers differ only in the political slant being offered.

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10 Sep 2011 13:43 - 10 Sep 2011 13:43 #58 by LadyJazzer
I respond in kind to the silliness from some people who have an agenda to attack me no matter what I post. If you want to continue to play the game of trading cheap-shots, I'm totally good with that...I can give as good I get. But don't go crying when I give MORE than I get. The only agenda I have is to squash the b.s., lies and spin from the righties... If it hurts when I do that, then I suggest you stop doing it.

I believe we can trace some of this current exchange back to Page-3:

LadyJazzer wrote: Or, she may have used the term to point out how 9/11 images can be used to whip up anti-Muslim hysteria in certain people who are easily susceptible to such things, and DO, in fact, mix and confuse it with some jingoistic form of uber-patriotism.


Funny, I don't see anything in what I said that specifically references the date of 9/11/2011...It is a statement of FACT that 9/11 images and faux-patriotism can be used to whip up anti-Muslim hysteria in certain people... That is a fact...It's not debatable. If you want to continue to trade shots, let's go... Frankly, you aren't worth my time... But so far, you aren't providing much amusement either.

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10 Sep 2011 13:43 #59 by Mtn Gramma

cydl wrote:

Local_Historian wrote: There's remembering, and then there's glorifcation of it. The glorification part has gotten out of hand, truly.

Honor those who did their job, mourn those who died, but it is NOTHING to "celebrate". I have ever gotten "celebrating" the death of anyone, and If I'm reading VL right, its this part that bothers him.

I know it bothers the hell out of me, so I'm going to be at work, doing a haunt build, working likely 10 hours just like today, avoiding a celebration of a tragedy.



:yeahthat: :goodpost:


I second that. And for me it also applies to a local event. I plan to mow the property tomorrow and later this month.

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10 Sep 2011 13:53 #60 by chickaree
I like the idea of a 9/11 Day of Service. Show that building something of value is the proper response to those who think that destruction is a legitimate form of expression. All of those that choose to think that this day should be about hate just don't get it.

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